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Subject: Re: Bad message ...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:32:39 09/22/02

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On September 22, 2002 at 08:02:30, Victor Fernandez wrote:

>On September 22, 2002 at 07:28:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 22, 2002 at 07:14:44, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On September 22, 2002 at 07:05:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 22, 2002 at 06:52:18, Victor Fernandez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You give no new information about Ruffian.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Hi Uri,
>>>
>>>where is your problem with a work from an other programmer.
>>>The Ruffian programmer say not ... please stop to write about "Movai".
>>>
>>>Bad message Uri, very bad message!
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>I did not say not to write about Ruffian.
>>
>>My complain was that the title says more about ruffian and I get no more
>>information from reading the content.
>>
>>The fact that it has good result is not new so the speculation that top
>>programmers will work harder is not surprising(I am not sure about it because
>>they may also give up chess).
>>
>>The claim that Ruffian is not bad in endgame is also speculation(I do not know
>>what bad means but people can look at the games and decide)_
>
>
>Uri, it is not speculation, it is a simple syllogism.
>
>Shredder plays the endings very well
>A program that it score versus Shredder it cannot be weak in endings
>Ruffian it is not weak in endings
>
>Prove the opposite.
>
>Victor

I did not say nothing about Ruffian so I do not need to prove the opposite but
the result against shredder is not a proof because a program can win against
another program because of playing better middlegame without knowledge about
endgame.

I also know that shredder missed a win against Junior in the last game of the
last WCCC so I am not sure if Shredder play the endgame very well and it may be
dependent on the definition of very well.

A friend of me who bought shredder does not think that it is better than other
top programs in the endgame.

I remember that Shredder was not number 1 in a competition based on a position
from rook endgame.

Uri



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