Author: pavel
Date: 10:17:41 09/22/02
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On September 22, 2002 at 11:05:47, Peter Skinner wrote: >This whole scenario with Ruffian is a tad rediculous. > >When I joined the computer chess circle about 9 years ago, I was amazed that >there were automated chess programs. Still today I find the hobby/sport >fasincating. > >About 4 yrs ago I tried to write my own program with help from the Crafty >mailing list, here at the CCC, from sources on ICC/FICS. When my program got >it's first draw vs GNU-Chess I was amazed and actually posted the game here and >bragged to everyone I knew. That was 4 yrs ago. > >Currently I no longer work on the program anymore and I doubt if it were to have >a rating of 1700. I am serious. It is horrible. I no longer work on it due to >work/time restrictions. > >I looked at every piece of code I could get my hands on to write the damn thing. >There are others here that have been working on their respective programs for >over 20 years ie. Robert Hyatt. > >People just take a step back and think. If _you_ were to write a chess program, >improved it's play to where _your_ program was beating the best this sport has >to offer, would you not "tell it on the mountain"? I sure as hell would, and I >know others would as well. That is something, as Robert said, someone would have >known about. NO ONE seems to know anything but how to say wait for a statement, >biography of the author, or even a release of the engine. That to me smells like >a rat. If it smells like it... > >To have a program pop out of no where and suddenly be the #1 program in the >world is just a tad to much. Hense the great amount of doubt surrounding it. >Not only do I find it hard to believe, I find it _very_ disrespectful of those >who are posting results for this _new_ engine that most consider totally false. > >If this is nothing more than a hoax I would recommend that those involved should >"let us all in on the joke" pretty damn quick. > >This is a COMPUTER CHESS CLUB. It has every conceivable author of a known chess >program here to talk about the subject, share ideas, and frankly just love the >hobby they have chosen. > >Personally if this _does_ turn into a hoax, and I am absolutely sure it will, >those involved should be removed from this board. Not only do they have people >like pavel all tied up in knots, you are showing little to no respect to those >who have worked very hard on their programs. > >I have already stated that I am beginning to think that this could be a hoax to >promote Arena. The only people that have either seen this damn program, or have >results for it are attached to that project. > >The only way that you are going to get the program is if you download the next >release of Arena. I find that odd. > >Peter (tell it like it is) Skinner Look Mr. Peter Skinner; that is your real name, right? If you are interested in starting a troll, I suggest that you start a thread about running a turnament that will never take place. In the mean time, if you are interested in proving your point about Ruffian being a hoax, than I suggest you prove it to us with some believable data, instead of telling us your personal love story with computer chess. Isn't it an irony, that you accuse someone of a hoax? AFAIAC, I believe I have showed all the respect to the ones who deserves. pavs
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