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Subject: Re: ruffian position

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 09:35:19 09/23/02

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On September 23, 2002 at 12:25:01, Will Singleton wrote:

>My first game with Amateur-Ruffian, and the following position arose.  10 secs
>to find the win, looks like over a million nps (1.6ghz amd).  I tried Yace on
>this, not even close.  I wonder what CT, Fritz or Crafty will do?
>
>Look at the speed at which it gets to 18 ply, with the score jumping to +5.
>Looks pretty good to me.  btw, during the game (40 moves/4 min), using HT, I
>think it found the move much quicker than 10 sec.
>
>[D]8/3R4/6p1/5n2/1K4p1/r2N1k2/5P2/8 b - - 0 1
>
>32406 <first : 11 157 688 8170317  Ra2 Rd8 Ra6 Kc4 Ra3 Ne5+ Kxf2 Nxg4+ Kg3 Nf6
>34459 <first : 11 161 893 10645757  Ra1 Kc3 Ra6 Rf7 Ra3+ Kd2 Ra2+ Kc3 Ke4 Rf6
>36041 <first : 11 163 1051 12528090  Ra8 Kc3 Ke2 Kb3 Rc8 Kb4 Rc6 Ne5 Re6 Rd5
>36252 <first : 11 165 1071 12792218  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Kc3 g3
>36492 <first : 12 167 1095 13100103  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Kc3 g3
>36873 <first : 13 169 1133 13590317  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Kc3 g3
>37664 <first : 14 204 1214 14638687 Rxd3
>37674 <first : ++
>38435 <first : 14 233 1291 15748916  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Rd1 g3
>39647 <first : 15 255 1412 17401035  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Rd1 g3
>41249 <first : 16 290 1572 19638104 Rxd3
>41259 <first : ++
>42631 <first : 16 515 1710 21654411  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Rd1 g3
>46316 <first : 17 522 2078 26766445  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Rd1 g3
>53026 <first : 18 522 2750 35978459  Rxd3 Rxd3+ Kxf2 Rd2+ Kf3 Rd3+ Kf4 Rd1 g3
>Rg1 Kf3 Kc5 g2 Kd5 Kf2 Rxg2+ Kxg2 Ke5 Kf3 Kf6 Nh4 Kg5 Kg3
>
>(pv's are truncated for readability)
>
>Will

This might just be some piece of knowledge? PM gets Rxd3 at ply 1. However, PM's
score is nothing special and it's a lot slower than ruffian:

 1b  +1.31   00:00:00.00        19   1...Ra6
 1b  +1.37   00:00:00.00        41   1...Rxd3
 1=  +2.08   00:00:00.00        76   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2
 2>  +2.08   00:00:00.00        80   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2
 2=  +2.08   00:00:00.00       107   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2
 3>  +2.08   00:00:00.00       127   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2
 3=  +2.08   00:00:00.01       192   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2
 4>  +1.72   00:00:00.01       542   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 4=  +1.75   00:00:00.01       584   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 5>  +1.75   00:00:00.01       724   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 5=  +1.75   00:00:00.01      1228   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 6>  +1.75   00:00:00.01      1452   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 6=  +1.75   00:00:00.03      4122   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 7>  +1.75   00:00:00.03      4700   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 7=  +1.75   00:00:00.05      9285   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5
 8>  +1.75   00:00:00.06     11461   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Kc5 g3
 8=  +2.17   00:00:00.12     27523   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ne3
                                     5.Rd6 g3 6.Rf6 Nf5 7.Rxg6
 9>  +2.07   00:00:00.22     54067   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ke2
                                     5.Rd7 g3
 9=  +2.10   00:00:00.22     54599   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ke2
                                     5.Rd7 g3
10>  +2.10   00:00:00.26     66661   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ke2
                                     5.Rd7 g3
10=  +2.10   00:00:00.40     99948   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ke2
                                     5.Rd7 g3
11>  +2.10   00:00:00.52    133960   1...Rxd3 2.Rxd3 Kxf2 3.Rd2 Kf3 4.Rd3 Ke2
                                     5.Rd7 g3
...

Same score & PV all the way down to depth 18

Andrew



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