Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 03:32:32 08/26/98
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On August 25, 1998 at 23:03:12, fca wrote: >On August 25, 1998 at 18:33:39, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>On August 25, 1998 at 07:28:29, fca wrote: >> >>>But the question is: WHY does it reject Qxg7. >> >>Some programs see that taking g7 is a bad move because it weakens the white >>position. >>A typical zugzwang game :-)) >>In paderborn the zugzwang-queen was also travelling on b2 and tiger tried to >>hunt it... The game itself can bring tears in your eyes, because it shows the >>difference between search and knowledge very dramatically. >>You cannot SUBSTITUTE "do not play Qxg7" by search. >> >>Zarkov has king-safety terms... >>It gives up Qxg7 arround 4' on my 200 Mhz machine.... Other programs, depending >>on how much knowledge they have, and how many NPS they make, will also see it... >> >>>i.e. given say 1 hr/move, playing for both sides, what line and evaluations (for >>>each move) does it produce after Qxg7 is played ? >> >>What has happened in the game ! > >In the game White was Zugzwang, Black A.N.Other. > >Here I ask please for White & Black = Gandalf. > >Are you sure substantially the same line occurs if we force Qxg7 to be played? > >Also evaluations. > >Reason for this: OK, Gandalf rejects Qxg7 (good, Qxg7 is dumb) BUT if Gandalf is >given the chance of playing for Black also (I assume it will win as Black) at >what stage does Black realise 'aha I am winning'? > >The main point is in the other post. > >Kind regards > >fca I will ask Steen Suurballe about it... I don't have gandalf yet. But have ordered it...
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