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Subject: Re: What is short time?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:25:08 09/23/02

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On September 23, 2002 at 08:12:14, pavel wrote:

>On September 23, 2002 at 08:06:12, Severi Salminen wrote:
>
>>>Now let me raise the question again.
>>>
>>>Q| Is it possible to write a chess program in such a short time (and not even
>>>visit this, or other, forum) that would play, atleast, at the par of some
>>>commercial engines?
>>
>>What is short time? According to Ruffian homepage:
>>
>>"How long did it take to develop?
>>Development started in 1998. It is developed by a single individual on his spare
>>time."
>>
>>4 years. Not that short to me...But hey, has anyone suggested that Per-Ola could
>>join CCC? Maybe if HE told us something about Ruffian, WE would not have to
>>speculate this much.
>>
>>Severi
>
>
>I think considering the fact that some of the programmers (commercials and
>amatuers) have spend a lot of time (ussually more than 10 years), and reached a
>stage (or not even so), that has been reached by ruffian in 4 yrs is remarkable;
>and thus could be considered as a "short time", comparable to the development
>phase of the other programs.
>
>Yes it would be really nice if he would join the board.
>I am preety much sure he knows about this board.
>
>I hope the ugly comments about the program (and programmer) made by some of the
>"wise" posters around here, didn't scare him away.

Pepito was developed quickly and it is very strong.
Quark was developed quickly and it is very strong.
List is also going to be very strong.  I have seen some of the code of List and
it is not like the code of any other chess engine that I have seen (IOW -- it is
clearly original thinking).

Amir Ban first entered the WMCCC in 1995 and already placed 3rd.  In 1997 he won
the World Championship.  I don't know how much time he spent developing, but he
surely was a meteoric star.

I think that a chess engine can be developed in 10% of the time it would have
taken in 1995.  You can find literally hundreds of excellent articles on the net
on how to do it.  It was much harder a while back.



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