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Subject: Re: Ruffian is here - Make your move Bob Hyatt!

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 15:58:33 09/23/02

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On September 23, 2002 at 18:06:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 23, 2002 at 16:01:38, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 2002 at 15:36:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 23, 2002 at 14:43:23, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 23, 2002 at 14:19:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>2.  A copy of a commercial engine, aided by a hex editor to change strings
>>>>>    to disguise what has happened.
>>>>
>>>>The only commercial engine, that I am aware of, that supports UCI and WB is
>>>>Gandalf. AFAIK it is not available for Unix systems. Ruffian, when logged into
>>>>ICC shows an interface line with xboard. Unix versions are expected soon.
>>>>
>>>>>5.  A completely new program, developed by a completely new author, sight-
>>>>>    unseen by anybody until very recently.
>>>>
>>>>I think, point 5 is by far the most probable thing.
>>>
>>>We just have to agree to disagree.  I believe it is the _least_ probable
>>>explanation.
>>
>>If you believe this, you believe, your point 2 is more probable. Have you any
>>explaination, how this can be, after reading my argument?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dieter
>
>I don't know enough about windows.  But I could _sure_ write a "wrapper" program
>for a unix application that talked one or the other, and make it appear to
>"talk" both...
>
>So I don't see that as an iron-clad refutation...
>
>Someone with more windows experience than me would have to say "this is
>impossible."  In unix it clearly is not.

Sorry for posting all of the context. Usually I avoid to do this, but sometimes,
it seems impossible.

To Robert Hyatt - I cannot see anything concrete in your argument. What do you
mean be "that talked one or the other"? Who is one? Who is another?

Is it so difficult to say just once: "ok, I was wrong here"? Really seems to be
the case. Our very first discussion here on CCC was about random numbers. I
seriousily believe, that I know a lot more about this, than you. But it was no
problem for you, to teach me some lectures about pseudo random number generators
(I believe most of it was just wrong) Still, you allways try to have the last
word (with very doubious arguments, IMHO). You seem to have more time for such
discussions than me. So, sooner or later, after all your diversifications, I
must give up.

It is very similar in this discussion. Also, I have sent you tells many times at
ICC. Very friendly ones, I think (and honestly meant very friendly). You never
answered. Yesterday, I asked about some clarification of crafty finger note 8 on
ICC by a mess to hyatt. Instead of answering, you prefered to delete my message.

After all this, can I take your comments seriously anymore?

To come back to the discussion of this threat. Do you seriously believe, that a
commercial engine, that is only available for Windows environement, can be
modified with a hex editior, and will run under Unix afterwards?

Regards,
Dieter



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