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Subject: Re: The "specially sausage" Fighter!

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 10:06:16 09/24/02

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On September 24, 2002 at 12:35:18, Peter Berger wrote:

Hi,

>Maybe it should be mentioned that this list includes the current worldchampion
>and the number 1 and 2 of the Swedish SSDF list.
>
>Quantity isn't everything, there is also quality to think about.

Not for me!
For me is every work on an engine the same work.
Knightx or Shredder ... no different for me!
Knightx and Shredder are chess engines and I have in the most cases no chance
against Knightx and no chance against Shredder. I see here not Quantity and
Quality. The programmer from Knightx and the programmer from Shredder made the
best for his engines. The programmer from Knightx have maybe not to many time
and this is the reason why I say: For me are all engines important.

A Polish champion or a French champion ... champion is champion and an engine is
an engine.

>What can an average user do with 160 chess engines? I don't think the number of
>engines itself is very important at all.

On the number of engines you can see that in this example 95% of programmers
added standards in his engines. 5% of the programmers "The specially sausage
Fighter"!

Other example:
You are sitting in your town in a coffee shop. Good wether and you see 165
womens. 160 womens nicely dressed and 5 womens runs naked over your way. What
are you thinking? :-))

>The ChessBase GUI is very good and offers a lot of useful options - the same is
>true about the ChessPartner interface, to name two examples . Both also support
>UCI engines directly and CP also allows to use WinBoard engines without
>problems.

To 50% right!
The other 50% ...
I will explain:
You can used in ChessBase GUI and ChessPartner GUI free available engines. But
you can not used the engines from ChessBase and ChessPartner in free or other
available GUIs. So the firms used freeware but give not the chance to used the
own engines in other GUIs.

That is Main Theme: No standards!

>I am interested in the development of amateur engines and spend much time with
>them.

You are welcome :-)

>But from reading your posts I came to the conclusion you started some kind of
>crusade here.

I wrote about facts:
165 engins and 160 engines are compatible to UCI / WB (to standards) and only a
hand full are "specially sausage Fighter".

So I asked a normaly (for this time normaly) question:
Is ChessTiger compatible to standards or not?

Look, the Chess Partner programmer have fun on Ruffian and played games againt
Chess Tiger. Could the Ruffian programmer also played with Chess Tiger on the
GUI where he have interest?

It's really easy to understand what I write here!

>Another aspect: it is nice to get strong engines for free but for me it is also
>OK to pay some money for a high quality product.

Hight quality product?
Now I understand you!

For me are all chess engines hight qualtiy products and so you understand not my
messags. In this case you have right!

>I have no problem to respect your different opinion

I also!

>- it would be nice if you
>respected different opinions, too.

No problem ...

>Peter

Best
Frank



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