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Subject: Re: Games

Author: Shaun Brewer

Date: 00:10:37 09/25/02

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On September 25, 2002 at 02:44:48, Lex Loep wrote:

>On September 24, 2002 at 20:49:13, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On September 24, 2002 at 19:44:13, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>
>>>On September 24, 2002 at 18:31:36, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 17:00:58, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 16:07:04, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 15:49:43, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jeroen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe I am using the default book. At least I have not changed anything
>>>>>>>since the initial install of Rebel Tiger 11 and various patches from the
>>>>>>>Lokasoft web site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have got the Gambit book downloaded a while back - should I be using that? I
>>>>>>>had thought that this may play more risky lines than was suitable for
>>>>>>>computer-computer play?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The rebel.bk file in the RebelTigerII directory is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>size 6.64 MB (6,963,200 bytes) last modified 07 October 2000 15:16:50 this is
>>>>>>>according to properties under win2k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wrong book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Right book is ct.tbk Extra----options----books-----tick use engine books.
>>>>>>You can naturally check this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah,
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not have a ct.tbk file in RebelTigerII or any of its sub directories!?
>>>>>
>>>>>I have just run CP5.exe (I must admit to only having run ERT in the past so I
>>>>>had to run cp52regcheck.EXE as I was told I was running a demo version).
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway looked at Extra -- options -- books and this was set to use GUI books !!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Do I have a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Shaun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Naturally with gui books ticked the wrong book is in use. For any Tiger engine
>>>>ONLY engine books should be ticked and the book file should be ct.tbk.
>>>>
>>>>Also if you have no ct.tbk on your pc I would simply install RebelTigerII again.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Sarah,
>>>
>>>I have only been using the ERT tool and had therefore not seen these options. I
>>>had incorrectly assumed that the default install would set up the provided
>>>engines at their full strength.
>>
>>
>>Not so, in the case of the Tiger engines they are set at install with a minimal
>>amount of Ram (hash)
>>
>>
>>>Having had a quick play in CP5 I see the default engine was the Lokasoft one so
>>>I selected Gambit Tiger II - unchecked 'Use GUI books' ticked 'Use Engine books'
>>>in the list box ct.tbk is shown - however this file is not on my system I have
>>>now searched all local harddrives and a file ct.tbk is not present however
>>>Gambit Tiger II is playing from a book. Is this perhaps a name rather than a
>>>physical file?
>>
>>
>>No it's a physical file and if you installed RebelTigerII to default it would be
>>located it C:\Program Files\Rebel\RebelTigerII
>>I don't have no idea how the file can be shown if it's not anywhere on your PC.
>>
>>
>>>Are we positive that when I set up an engine in ERT it is using the settings
>>>from CP5 and using the GUI books?
>>
>>
>>Since you don't have a Ct.tbk and the book in use you wrote yourself was a bk
>>file it must be using gui books. Plus you wrote "unchecked the gui books"
>>indicating it was ticked. Also since Jeroen wrote the books he wouldn't have
>>questioned which you were using.
>>
>>I didn't see anywhere in your post you refer to RebelTigerII which I'm assuming
>>you have and since there is no Ct.tbk I would simply install it again.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Under ERT the engines alway use the engine books, this is not affected
>by the GUI settings.
>
>If you can see the ct.tbk in the CP GUI than you can be sure the book
>is there. The reason you can find the file is probably some windows
>explore setting such as hiding the file extensions.
>
>Lex

The fact that under ERT engines always use engine books and should not be
effected by the GUI settings is good news!

If someone could confirm that the moves played are not in ct.tbk that would be
useful.

ct.tbk is shown in the CP GUI in the listbox but I dont know if that is the file
it is expecting so it is displayed and then because it can't find the file, some
other book is being used.

I have done a directory listing of my RebelTigerII install location:

 Volume in drive D is DATA
 Volume Serial Number is 7C43-D792

 Directory of D:\Work\RebelTigerII

25/09/2002  07:54       <DIR>          .
25/09/2002  07:54       <DIR>          ..
17/09/2000  11:34                   62 AutoPlay at Free Internet Chess
Server.fic
11/09/2002  17:36       <DIR>          BACKUP
11/03/2000  22:22               40,960 BatchCvt.exe
15/10/2000  16:39              688,128 BCGCB473.dll
01/11/2000  22:42              688,128 BCGCB474.dll
11/09/2002  17:36       <DIR>          Bitmaps
14/09/2000  10:51              264,704 Book.exe
12/08/2001  20:06               49,207 bookcvt.exe
09/11/2000  18:17                8,885 bookcvt.hlp
13/05/2002  21:22              102,455 bookman.dll
28/02/1999  15:46                   34 Chess Net.fic
29/06/2002  16:03                3,072 ChessTiger engine - Chess Tiger
14.0.blk.bkl
29/06/2002  16:03                3,072 ChessTiger engine - Chess Tiger
14.0.wht.bkl
17/03/2001  12:51               86,074 chesstiger.dll
15/03/2001  22:50               69,691 chesstigerg.dll
11/07/2002  12:05              200,759 ChsGame.dll
13/09/2002  13:19       <DIR>          Comet V Gambit Tiger 2 Games from start
13/09/2002  14:24               20,452 CometB48vGambitTigerfromGame5.log
13/09/2002  14:01                5,330 CometB48vGambitTigerfromGame5.pgn
07/09/2001  21:02                2,104 CP5.cnt
22/08/2002  20:42            1,445,939 CP5.EXE
17/08/2002  16:04              373,135 CP5.hlp
24/09/2002  17:09              201,333 Crafty 18.15 v Ruffian 5m.log
24/09/2002  17:09               24,569 Crafty 18.15 v Ruffian 5m.pgn
25/09/2002  00:42                  567 CT.INI
21/08/2002  10:31       <DIR>          Dbases
11/09/2002  17:35       <DIR>          devices
25/09/2002  07:54                    0 dir.txt
17/09/2000  11:32                   41 Dutch Chess Server.fic
26/09/2000  21:03               93,630 Eco.bkx
22/08/2002  21:33              524,342 engine.dll
16/09/2001  10:57                7,988 ENGINE.HLP
10/03/2000  21:45                7,359 ENGINEEXT-SAMPLE.INI
21/09/2002  16:21              127,033 EngineExt.dll
02/02/2002  16:12               17,409 Engineext.hlp
21/09/2002  16:30                4,799 engineext.txt
11/12/2001  21:44               28,672 engineps.dll
23/09/2002  10:57       <DIR>          engines
09/02/2002  16:55               73,728 enginewiz.exe
01/01/2002  17:49                5,516 ert-readme.txt
13/08/2002  21:34              135,168 ert.exe
24/09/2002  21:42              206,619 ert.log
17/09/2002  17:59               50,000 ert.pgn
17/09/2000  11:33                   44 France Chess Server.fic
17/09/2000  11:32                   43 Free Internet Chess Server.fic
25/09/2002  00:15                3,072 Gambit Tiger 2.0.blk.bkl
25/09/2002  00:15                3,072 Gambit Tiger 2.0.wht.bkl
23/09/2002  13:04              169,848 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian (nunn).log
23/09/2002  12:53               24,675 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian (nunn).pgn
23/09/2002  17:37               97,997 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m (nunn).log
23/09/2002  17:33               11,415 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m (nunn).pgn
24/09/2002  14:07              196,247 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m(2) (nunn).log
24/09/2002  12:46               22,862 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m(2) (nunn).pgn
23/09/2002  16:08              202,150 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m.log
23/09/2002  16:02               21,443 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian 5m.pgn
23/09/2002  11:58              152,162 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian.log
23/09/2002  11:58               20,713 Gambit Tiger2 v Ruffian.pgn
30/06/2002  14:37                1,042 Game5.pgn
13/05/2001  13:27                  114 games.thtm
17/09/2000  11:33                   53 German Chess Server.fic
09/08/1998  16:31            1,297,408 GX6050R.dll
30/06/2002  20:31               12,016 HT.INI
13/05/2001  13:38                   63 index.thtm
23/09/2002  11:02               64,453 INSTALL.LOG
17/09/2000  11:33                   43 Internet Chess Club.fic
18/11/1997  21:56                1,598 Krantenstijl.bmp
18/11/1997  21:47                1,598 Krantenstijlm.bmp
25/09/2002  00:22       <DIR>          Layouts
28/11/1999  12:00               73,728 lc2cbcv.dll
19/11/2000  13:01               69,632 LC2EPD.dll
14/06/2001  17:31               77,880 LC2PGNCV.dll
22/09/1995  04:00              553,472 lchess.bk1
19/11/2000  13:01              102,456 LCHSBASE.dll
21/08/2002  10:31       <DIR>          Levels
19/09/2001  21:17                3,329 license.txt
16/09/2002  12:05                5,133 ListTest.log
16/09/2002  11:50                  537 ListTest.pgn
24/09/2002  21:47                3,072 Lokasoft standard Chess Engine.blk.bkl
24/09/2002  21:47                3,072 Lokasoft standard Chess Engine.wht.bkl
22/09/1995  04:00              553,472 mainbook.bk
16/09/2002  11:44               76,438 NewCometTest.log
16/09/2002  11:42               20,916 NewCometTest.pgn
18/11/1997  21:49                  214 Newspaper.sinf
14/04/2001  23:01                3,165 Nunn.pgn
23/09/2002  12:30                1,546 Nunn2nd5.pgn
08/03/2000  21:46                  135 Order online.url
17/09/2002  12:04                   67 Position04.epd
17/09/2002  13:20                  366 Position04.pgn
24/08/2002  11:04               13,051 readme.txt
07/10/2000  15:16            6,963,200 rebel.bk
13/10/2000  09:42              267,776 Rebel.exe
09/06/1999  23:52              648,943 Rebel.MVS
16/02/2000  18:37            1,297,588 Rebel.VAL
08/03/2000  22:34                1,138 register.txt
27/03/2001  13:22                4,717 rt2-upd1.txt
27/06/2002  23:33            1,420,797 rt2upd1.exe
05/09/1998  13:51                1,987 Scripts.wri
01/10/2000  19:03              537,600 Small.bk
11/09/2002  17:35       <DIR>          Sounds
14/06/2002  21:47                  128 speek.kbm
05/11/2000  21:29              156,118 splash.bmp
17/09/2000  11:33                   46 Swedisch Chess Server.fic
05/09/1998  13:53                1,936 Techdoc.wri
21/03/2001  16:43              372,736 Tiger.dll
16/10/2000  21:18                  766 tigericon.ico
21/03/2001  16:44              376,832 Tiger_g.dll
11/09/2002  17:35       <DIR>          timeseal
02/11/2000  18:10                2,113 tips.txt
10/05/2001  11:04              162,304 UNWISE.EXE
10/05/2001  11:04                5,576 Unwise.ini
29/06/2002  09:41                  391 Vendor
10/05/2001  11:09              166,518 WiseUpdt.exe
             102 File(s)     21,815,986 bytes
              12 Dir(s)   8,208,605,696 bytes free

This is from dos so no hidden file types etc.

If I have to re-install should I uninstall first?

I have saved all patches and updates downloaded so these can be re-applied.

Thanks again

Shaun



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