Author: Chessfun
Date: 02:29:03 09/25/02
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On September 25, 2002 at 05:20:48, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>On September 25, 2002 at 03:21:27, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On September 25, 2002 at 03:16:00, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>
>>>On September 25, 2002 at 03:00:06, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 25, 2002 at 02:44:48, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 20:49:13, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 19:44:13, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 18:31:36, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 17:00:58, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 16:07:04, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On September 24, 2002 at 15:49:43, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Jeroen,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I believe I am using the default book. At least I have not changed anything
>>>>>>>>>>>since the initial install of Rebel Tiger 11 and various patches from the
>>>>>>>>>>>Lokasoft web site.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I have got the Gambit book downloaded a while back - should I be using that? I
>>>>>>>>>>>had thought that this may play more risky lines than was suitable for
>>>>>>>>>>>computer-computer play?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The rebel.bk file in the RebelTigerII directory is:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>size 6.64 MB (6,963,200 bytes) last modified 07 October 2000 15:16:50 this is
>>>>>>>>>>>according to properties under win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Wrong book.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right book is ct.tbk Extra----options----books-----tick use engine books.
>>>>>>>>>>You can naturally check this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sarah,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I do not have a ct.tbk file in RebelTigerII or any of its sub directories!?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have just run CP5.exe (I must admit to only having run ERT in the past so I
>>>>>>>>>had to run cp52regcheck.EXE as I was told I was running a demo version).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Anyway looked at Extra -- options -- books and this was set to use GUI books !!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do I have a problem?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Shaun
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Naturally with gui books ticked the wrong book is in use. For any Tiger engine
>>>>>>>>ONLY engine books should be ticked and the book file should be ct.tbk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also if you have no ct.tbk on your pc I would simply install RebelTigerII again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sarah,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have only been using the ERT tool and had therefore not seen these options. I
>>>>>>>had incorrectly assumed that the default install would set up the provided
>>>>>>>engines at their full strength.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not so, in the case of the Tiger engines they are set at install with a minimal
>>>>>>amount of Ram (hash)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having had a quick play in CP5 I see the default engine was the Lokasoft one so
>>>>>>>I selected Gambit Tiger II - unchecked 'Use GUI books' ticked 'Use Engine books'
>>>>>>>in the list box ct.tbk is shown - however this file is not on my system I have
>>>>>>>now searched all local harddrives and a file ct.tbk is not present however
>>>>>>>Gambit Tiger II is playing from a book. Is this perhaps a name rather than a
>>>>>>>physical file?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No it's a physical file and if you installed RebelTigerII to default it would be
>>>>>>located it C:\Program Files\Rebel\RebelTigerII
>>>>>>I don't have no idea how the file can be shown if it's not anywhere on your PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are we positive that when I set up an engine in ERT it is using the settings
>>>>>>>from CP5 and using the GUI books?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since you don't have a Ct.tbk and the book in use you wrote yourself was a bk
>>>>>>file it must be using gui books. Plus you wrote "unchecked the gui books"
>>>>>>indicating it was ticked. Also since Jeroen wrote the books he wouldn't have
>>>>>>questioned which you were using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't see anywhere in your post you refer to RebelTigerII which I'm assuming
>>>>>>you have and since there is no Ct.tbk I would simply install it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>Under ERT the engines alway use the engine books, this is not affected
>>>>>by the GUI settings.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you can see the ct.tbk in the CP GUI than you can be sure the book
>>>>>is there. The reason you can find the file is probably some windows
>>>>>explore setting such as hiding the file extensions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Then something else is wrong, as looking at the very first game played shows it
>>>>isn't Ct.tbk either gambit or normal.
>>>>
>>>>Event "ComputerMatch"]
>>>>[Site "PIII 1133mhz 512mb ram*"]
>>>>[Date "2002.09.23"]
>>>>[Round "1"]
>>>>[White "Gambit Tiger 2.0"]
>>>>[Black "Ruffian 1.0.0"]
>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>[TimeControl "300"]
>>>>
>>>>{ERT 0.8beta Autoflag=On Pondering=Off OperatorTime=300 mS } 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6
>>>>3. Bc4 Nf6 4. e5 dxe5 5. Nxe5 e6 6. O-O Bd6 7. Nf3 O-O 8. b3 Nc6 9. Bb2 e5
>>>>10. d3 Bg4 11. h3 Bf5 12. Nc3 a6 13. a4 Na5 14. Nd2 Kh8 15. Qf3 Bd7 16. g4 Bc6
>>>>17. Qe3 b6 18. Rfd1 Kg8 19. Kf1 Re8 20. Re1 Bc7 21. Ra2 Qd7 22. Nce4 b5
>>>>23. Nxc5 Qe7 24. g5 Nd7 25. Nxd7 Qxd7 26. b4 bxc4 27. bxa5 Bxa5 28. Bc1 Rad8
>>>>29. Ra3 Bb4 30. Ra2 Qd5 31. Ra1 Qg2+ 32. Ke2 Bc3 33. Ba3 e4 34. d4 Bxd4 35. Rg1
>>>>Qf3+ {Score threshold reached} 0-1
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Sarah,
>>>
>>>Thanks now you have confirmed that ct.tbk is not being used that one thing
>>>eliminated.
>>>
>>>Here is the log for the game:
>>>
>>>16:09:33 Starting match: ERT 0.8beta Autoflag=On Pondering=Off TimeControl=300
>>>OperatorTime=300 mS
>>>16:09:33 Using start positions from: D:\Work\RebelTigerII\Nunn.pgn
>>>16:09:33 On your marks .......
>>>16:09:44 Game# 1 of 20 started Gambit Tiger 2.0 - Ruffian 1.0.0
>>>16:09:44 -: 1. e4
>>>16:09:44 -: 1... c5
>>>16:09:44 -: 2. Nf3
>>>16:09:44 -: 2... e6
>>>16:09:44 -: 3. d4
>>>16:09:44 -: 3... cxd4
>>>16:09:44 -: 4. Nxd4
>>>16:09:44 -: 4... Nc6
>>
>>This is a log to a Nunn 1 match? the pgn I posted is the first from what you
>>posted and not this game? look at move 2....or 3.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Sorry must not rush here is the correct log:
>
>13:05:40 Starting match: ERT 0.8beta Autoflag=On Pondering=Off TimeControl=300
>OperatorTime=300 mS
>13:05:40 On your marks .......
>13:05:50 Game# 1 of 20 started Gambit Tiger 2.0 - Ruffian 1.0.0
>13:05:58 0: 0.16/11 7 1. e4 e5 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 d6 d3 h6 h3 Nc6 Be3
>13:05:58 1: 0.00/1 0 1... c5
>13:06:03 0: 0.38/10 4 2. Nf3 d6 d4 cxd4 Nxd4 Nc6 Bb5 Bd7 Nxc6 bxc6 Bc4 Nf6
>13:06:03 1: 0.00/1 0 2... d6
>13:06:07 0: 0.30/10 4 3. Bc4 e5 d3 h6 Nc3 Nf6 h3 Nc6 O-O Nd4
>13:06:07 1: 0.00/1 0 3... Nf6
>13:06:15 0: 0.28/10 7 4. e5 dxe5 Nxe5 e6 d3 Nbd7 Bb5 a6
>13:06:27 1: 0.25/10 12 4... dxe5 O-O e6 Nxe5 Be7 Nc3 O-O d3 Nbd7 Bf4 Nxe5 Bxe5
See from move one of Gambit 2.0 shows NO book loaded.
Sarah.
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