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Subject: Re: Has Christophe's 0.01% chance actually occurred?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:30:24 09/26/02

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On September 26, 2002 at 02:51:32, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On September 25, 2002 at 22:16:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 25, 2002 at 20:34:04, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On September 25, 2002 at 20:08:05, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 25, 2002 at 19:37:49, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 25, 2002 at 19:22:00, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope to see a better commercial program than Ruffian with a smaller
>>>>>>developement time in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope to see that program to get much more respect than what Ruffian got by
>>>>>some of us.
>>>>>
>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>pavs
>>>>
>>>>You know the story of the boy who cried wolf, right.
>>>>
>>>>Well, when the word is out that a new super engine has been developed, by a
>>>>totally unknown and in (almost) no time, then that's just crying wolf to many
>>>>here. They've seen it, believed it, and been fooled more than once, so one would
>>>>have to be a bit of an idiot to take the bait over and over.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore you should forgive them if they don't exactly jump overboard with
>>>>excitement right away, they must be _sure_ first.
>>>>
>>>>But hey, all this fuzz is only because the engine is so very strong, the
>>>>programmer shouldn't take it as an insult but rather as a complement!
>>>>
>>>>(the guy is unknown they say, so it couldn't very well be personal)
>>>>
>>>>I think you may have a point that some are jealous, I know I am! (well maybe
>>>>envious is more accurate :).
>>>>But don't we all want to make stronger engines, and do it fast even!?
>>>>I certainly have no problems admitting that! ;)
>>>>
>>>>Though AFAIK, this isn't related to whether or not it is a clone debate.
>>>>
>>>>-S.
>>>
>>>Sune,
>>>      I still think some of the reactions has more to do with jealousy than
>>>sketicism. I mean if you look at the speculations (and some accusations) I
>>>listed in my previous post, and if you think about some of them, you will notice
>>>how dubiously far-fetched those speculations and accusations are.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>No jealousy here whatsoever.  Just a healthy dose of skepticism, caused by
>>the old
>>
>>   "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me..."
>>
>>I've seen _way_ too many "new and wonderful" engines...  That turned out to
>>be neither...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I would expect someone to take this is as an example, and work harder to improve
>>>his engine, not stratch their head and try to find faults that isn't there.
>>>
>>>IMO the previous clones were much too obvious, and clones are much too easy to
>>>catch in general.
>>
>>
>>And you don't think it possible that the "cloners" get more sophisticated?
>>Or do they remain with their very amateurish attempts forever?
>>
>>Get realistic...
>
>
>So Bob now that you have had some time to examine the .exe, did you find
>anything suggesting it was a clone or are you of the beleif that it indeed is an
>original?
>
>Regards
>Jonas


All I have concluded is that it is very unlikely that it is a clone of
"crafty".  I can't test any other hypothesis...



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