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Subject: Re: About Fritz 7002

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:31:24 09/26/02

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On September 26, 2002 at 15:27:05, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>Hello Sarah,
>
>Fritz 7002 have an 0-0-0 BUG:

Yes I know.


>(with opening books you can this not seen):
>
>Here my Article:
>
>Bug in the Fritz 7.002 engine


Read the article previously, the whole thing and enjoyed it.


>My little middle game test got feedback from a couple of testers. In
>one game the following position arose after move 13 (see diagram):
>
>Gandalf_432h - Fritz 7.002
>
>1.e4 c5 2.g3 d5 3.exd5 Dxd5 4.Df3 Dxf3 5.Sxf3 Lf5 6.Lg2 Sc6 7.d3 g6 8.Le3 Lg7
>9.Sc3 c4 10.Sh4 Le6 11.d4 Sxd4 12.Lxb7 Tb8 13.Le4
>
>1r2k1nr/p3ppbp/4b1p1/8/2pnB2N/2N1B1P1/PPP2P1P/R3K2R b KQk - 0 13
>
>13. ... Txb2? 14.0-0-0 Se2+ 15.Sxe2 Ld7 16.Ld5 Txa2 17.Lxc4 Ta5 18.Sf3 Lc6
>19.Sed4 Lxd4 20.Lxd4 f6 21.Le2 e5 22.Lc3 Td5 23.Txd5 Lxd5 24.Td1 Se7 25.Lb4 Le6
>26.Lc5 Kf7 27.Td6 Tc8 28.Lxa7 Sc6 29.Lc5 Se7 30.Lb4 Sd5 31.La5 Sc3 32.Lxc3 Txc3
>33.Ld3 Ke7 34.Ta6 Tc7 35.Le4 Tc4 36.Ta7+ Kd6 37.Ld3 Tc7 38.Txc7 Kxc7 39.Kb2 Kd6
>40.Kc3 Kc5 41.Sd2 f5 42.Sb3+ Kd6 43.Kb4 h6 44.c4 Kc7 45.Lc2 Lc8 46.Kc5 Le6
>47.Sd2 g5 48.Sf3 e4 49.Sd4 Lc8 50.Kd5 g4 51.Ke5 h5 52.Sxf5 Lb7 53.Lxe4 La6
>54.Se3 Kd7 55.Lg6 1-0
>
>After Fritz 7.002 played 13...Rxb2, Gandalf 4.32h simply won the
>exchange by queenside castling!
>
>People tried to guess the reason. In the meantime we know a bit more
>about it. In most cases where queenside castling is possible, Fritz
>7.002 considers one move less than all the possible ones. I could
>produce numerous examples. Using the multiple variation mode it can be
>proven easily; here is a simple example:
>
>8/8/8/8/2p5/2pkp1N1/8/R3K2R w KQ - 0 1
>White to move and mate in 1!
>
>And here the multiple variation analysis (!) by Fritz 7.002:
>
>1. +- (#6): 1.Td1+
>2. +- (#9): 1.Se2
>3. +- (#10): 1.Th4
>4. +- (#12): 1.Ta8
>5. +- (#14): 1.Th6
>6. +- (#11): 1.Th8
>7. +- (#11): 1.Th7
>8. +- (#12): 1.Th5
>9. +- (#12): 1.Ta7
>10. +- (#13): 1.Ta3
>11. +- (15.57): 1.Ta5
>12. +- (13.44): 1.Th3
>13. +- (13.41): 1.Tc1
>14. +- (13.41): 1.Th2
>15. +- (13.35): 1.Tb1
>16. +- (13.19): 1.Tf1
>17. +- (13.19): 1.Tg1
>18. +- (13.19): 1.Ta4
>19. +- (13.13): 1.Sf1
>20. +- (13.07): 1.Ta2
>21. +- (13.07): 1.Ta6
>22. +- (12.79): 1.Kd1
>23. +- (12.60): 1.Kf1
>24. +- (12.54): 1.Sf5
>25. +- (12.47): 1.Sh5
>26. +- (11.00): 1.0-0
>27. +- (10.04): 1.Se4
>
>Fritz 7.002 recognizes only 27 possible moves... however there are 28,
>and the best move (O-O-O#) is missing. What now?
>
>Hence, there had to be a new update, as such a bug couldn't be left
>in. For a serious tournament player such an engine has only a limited
>use, since queenside castling occurs in a lot of games.
>
>The next Fritz 7 update I remeber as follows: On 01/07/02 I was online
>at the F7 server Schach.de for a couple of hours, when suddenly a new
>update was announces. After the setup I immediately looked into the
>folder ChessBase\Engines, where I found a new engine dated
>01/07/02. The version number was 7.006!
>
>At this point I would like to list all Fritz 7 engines published so
>far, in order to not lose track in what follows.
>
>Fritz 7.001 = Datum 13.10.01 (420 kB)
>Fritz 7.002 = Datum 05.11.01 (424 kB)
>Fritz 7.006 Beta = Datum 07.01.02 (424 kB)
>Fritz 7.006 = Datum 11.01.02 (424 kB)
>Fritz 7.007 = Datum 23.03.02 (424 kB)
>
>As somebody related to the message board, the version released on
>01/07/02 was a 7.006 beta version that went into the update by
>mistake. The update was available on the Fritz 7 server only for a
>couple of hours, hence not everybody has this new engine. A couple of
>days later there was a new update with the final version of the Fritz
>7.006 engine - date: 01/11/02.
>
>Why a BUG-Engine in a Ratinglist?


Because at the time Fritz 7 002 came out the bug was unknown and since it led I
saw no reason to remove it. Besides which have you analyzed all positions with
008 and 002 or run a testsuite to confirm that they would play the same move in
all positions?. Because an engine has a bug don't mean it can't play and most
games are played with opening books.

Sarah.



>Eduard



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