Author: Bernhard Bauer
Date: 06:21:32 09/27/02
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On September 27, 2002 at 07:46:20, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 27, 2002 at 07:07:43, Bernhard Bauer wrote: > >>On September 26, 2002 at 10:00:41, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>On September 26, 2002 at 08:34:43, Bernhard Bauer wrote: >>> >>>>On September 26, 2002 at 08:01:26, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>> >>>>Ruffiah seams to be a modern engine. It uses the null-move heuristic heavily. >>>>Since the endgame is all about zugzwang it is no surprise that Ruffian will fail >>>>to to properly in that area. Tablebases resolve this partially. >>>>So why don't you use them?? >>>>Showing bad results when you criple the engine dosn't say anything about the >>>>engine, it says something about the user. >>>>Regards >>>>Bernhard >>> >>>As far as i know the tb's are not part of the engine, so i don't see how that >>>not using tb's could possibly be described as "cripling" the _engine_... >>> >>>I chose not to use tb's since cm8 has no access to them and i wanted it to be an >>>even match... >>> >>>Regards >>>Jonas >> >>Hi Jonas, >>by this logic the book is not part of the engine. Since the books are different >>I assume you choose to play without books because you wanted an even match. >> >>Up to now the engines need assistance by book, book learning, position learning >>and tablebases. These things may be regarded as the arms and the legs of an >>engine. Cutting them apart is cripling the engine. >> >>Think about playing the Muzio without a book! >> >>Kind regards >>Bernhard > >Computers have limited memory so people have the right >not to install tablesbases or part of the tablebases. > >The problem does not seem to be lack of tablebases because Ruffian >in analysis mode under winboard can see the mate without tablebases. > >I have no idea what is the problem. > >Uri Regarding the KRK endgame neither disk space nor memory is an issue. BTW I'm not questioning peoples rights. I use arena together with ruffian (book and tablebases) and I see no problems. Regards Bernhard
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