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Subject: Re: New and final solution of the Monty Hall Dilemma

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:10:52 09/27/02

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On September 27, 2002 at 11:03:56, Peter Berger wrote:

>On September 27, 2002 at 10:43:02, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>Hehe. I want to state that I will prevent if we have here a united flight to the
>>moon tonight. I am the responsible and I will prevent such cases of despair.
>>
>>No, I can't accept. Formerly you had, in your example, one door with 1/1000000
>>and 999999 doors with 999999/1000000. Now you open, means take away 998999
>>doors, right? Then you have two doors, right? With - now - each 1/2.
>>
>>You know what I mean? It's not magic. The 998999 doors are away. So there is no
>>talking about such incredible chances.
>>
>>You see where your mistake was?
>>
>>Good weekend
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>>
>
>Come on - what is so difficult to understand here?
>Maybe 1.000.000 is too high a number and maybe cars confuse people - let's take
>a cookie and 10 cups.
>
>You know there is exactly one cookie and it is in one of the cups. You win when
>you find it.
>
>You make your first guess: cookie is in cup 1.
>
>OK, says the Monty guy - now I take away 8 loser cups from the 9 you didn't
>choose (either he knows or he is just lucky, doesn't matter at all).

It is important
suppose for the discussion that he does not know and take cups 3-10

There are 10 cases with probability of 1/10 for the place of the winner cup.

In 8 out of 10 cases there is no game(because the winner cup is not in 1 or 2.

In 2 out of 10 cases he really take 8 loser cups.
In 1 of these 2 cases the cup is in 1 and in the second case the cup is in 2

The 2 cases have the same probability so the probability is 1/2.

Hope my explanation is clear.

Uri


>
>Now two cups are left, cup 7 and yours.
>
>Do you really think the probablity that your initial guess was right is 1/2 ?
>
>Maybe this is the point that confuses people here. The Monty takes away 8 of the
>9 cups, _not_ 8 of the 10 including yours.
>
>Btw, when it is about the three doors, the car and the goats there is an easy
>solution for all this discussion. Take a piece of paper and write all cases down
>- shouldn't take more than 10 minutes I suppose.
>
>Peter



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