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Subject: Re: crafty faster on AMD however

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:11:03 09/27/02

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On September 26, 2002 at 15:11:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 26, 2002 at 12:28:16, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On September 26, 2002 at 11:16:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>  93.5 seconds base run time
>>>
>>>Yes...  But the Intel duals are blowing the AMD duals out of the
>>>water, totally..
>>>
>>>AMD appears to win the "single cpu war" at the moment.  But on the
>>>duals (and beyond) they are _way_ behind intel's performance.
>>
>>
>>Where exactly are you seeing the dual AMD's being "_way_" behind Intel's
>>dual P4 systems? Slates dual XP 1.73(2100+) gets 1.69 million nodes/sec in
>>Crafty v18.11. A single 2.5GHz AthlonXP gets almost 1.6 million nodes/second.
>>With the 2800+ being announced on October 1st and the Iwill MPX2 as cheap as it
>>is someone could make a dual AthlonXP 2800+ box quite easily provided they take
>>the 5 minutes to unlock the cpus.
>>
>>Show me some numbers Hyatt. :)
>
>Several have posted dual AMD numbers.  The relevant detail is this:
>
>run crafty with one cpu on an AMD box and record the NPS.  Then run it
>using two cpus and record the NPS.  On an AMD box, the dual cpu speed
>will be around 1.4X faster than the single cpu speed.  on an Intel box,
>this ratio is 1.9X.  Which is a _significant_ difference.  IE with Crafty,
>a dual intel gets 1.9x as much computing power (I am not talking parallel
>search speedup here, only raw NPS numbers to compare computer horsepower)
>while a dual AMD gets 1.4X...
>
>Eugene posted several such numbers here.  Vincent reported 1.4X on his
>dual AMD.  At mhz for mhz, AMD is generally faster, using one cpu.  But
>when you factor in that 1.4X vs 1.9X for duals, the Intel processor catches
>up in a big hurry when using more than one cpu...

depends upon how well a program is written obviously.

>Wasn't my results that were posted, I just noticed them.
>
>Others replied to that thread as well and AMD was always behind...



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