Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 07:35:48 09/28/02
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On September 27, 2002 at 13:12:50, Sune Larsson wrote: >On September 27, 2002 at 12:10:34, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 27, 2002 at 11:28:28, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On September 26, 2002 at 11:17:40, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On September 26, 2002 at 08:31:11, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 26, 2002 at 07:06:43, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 26, 2002 at 06:33:35, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 26, 2002 at 04:31:29, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 26, 2002 at 04:05:35, Yuriy Lyapko wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Better commercial ruffian is better than a better free ruffian. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Very strange statement. Uri, you have too much money? Windows at $1000 is better >>>>>>>>>than the same Windows free-of-charge? I really don't understand your point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>George >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My point is that a better free ruffian is bad news for all the programmers who >>>>>>>>think maybe to sell their program in the future unless the author is going to >>>>>>>>release also the source code but I do not expect the author of Ruffian to do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I am going to release a better free movei but I do not plan to release a version >>>>>>>>that is significantly better than all the free programs even if I can develop >>>>>>>>it(I still hope that I can). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aha - in order to go commercial you have to be significantly better than the >>>>>>> free programs?! And before the line was set by the playing strength showed by >>>>>>> Yace/Crafty. Now it is Ruffian... So your whole flood of negative arguments >>>>>>> towards Ruffian (including mentioning virus and distrust of the author since >>>>>>> he doesn't post on forums) seems to spring from very subjective thoughts, >>>>>>> feelings and plans of your own... IMO, this is not the way to create respect >>>>>>> for yourself as a person nor as a chess programmer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /s >>>>>> >>>>>>I am not going to post more negatives posts about Ruffian. >>>>>> >>>>>>My suspect was based on the fact that the decision did not seem to me logical >>>>>>decision but maybe I do not understand and releasing a free program that is >>>>>>clearly better than the other programs is a better way to make money later from >>>>>>selling even a better program. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> People just might have other values in life than "making money" - at least when >>>>> it comes down to our mutual hobby computerchess. Look at Yace, WinBoard and >>>>> Scid - products with a very high brand of quality... >>>>> >>>>> /s >>>> >>>>I never used scid so I will not comment about it. >>>> >>>>I believe that the interface of commercial programs is >>>>superior relative to winboard so I do not think that >>>>winboard could has a significant commercial value. >>>> >>>>Yace0.99.56 is weaker than Ruffian so I also do not think that >>>>it has big commercial value. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>> How about Arena? >>> >>> /s >> >>I do not know >>I never tried it >> >>I do not know if it could have a significant commercial value. >> >>Uri > > Just out of curiosity - how come you never tried Scid and Arena? > Two excellent pieces of free chess software. If you have databases > of chess games, some software is needed to manage them. I found that > SCID has features that not even CB8 has (I use both) - f.e. automatic > correction of name spelling [player names, events, places etc], automatic > setting of elos in games, a very effective double checker (finds pesky > doubles that CB8 misses], an even more sophisticated ECO system etc. > Arena is just a superb interface for Uci and Wb engines - with the joy > of national anthems, logos etc. Some time ago I downloaded Arena and I found it had *lots* of bugs in the graphical interface. Did it improve? Maybe I should try it again. That scared me a bit to test an engine in that environment. SCID is very nice. Is there any way to cut and paste a position? I really need a replacement for EPD2DIAG in Linux. Regards, Miguel > > /s
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