Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 10:06:27 09/29/02
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On September 29, 2002 at 05:19:35, José Carlos wrote: >On September 29, 2002 at 04:12:48, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On September 29, 2002 at 02:22:54, John Smith wrote: >> >>>On September 28, 2002 at 22:08:41, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On September 28, 2002 at 17:57:07, John Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hey Sparky (that fits you so wonderfully), the truth is an absolute defense >>>>>against both slander and libel. In your previeus post, you admitted to having >>>>>pirated software on your computer. Pirated software that you did NOT pay for. >>>>>Therefore, you are a thief. A crook. A member of a most unsavory lot. >>>>> >>>>>warmest regards, >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>> >>>>Coping CD's is common practise and is not the same as TRUE PIRACY, I'm NOT >>>>SELLING this SOFTWARE! >>>> >>>>Also 99% of ALL my software I purchased. All my COMMERCIAL CHESS SOFTWARE IS >>>>PURCHASED! >>>> >>>>I'm NOT a THIEF, I'm NOT a CRIMINAL! Also I've CONTRIBUTED THOUSANDS of DOLLARS >>>>to CHESS,(HUNDREDS to ICD between 1990-1996), MOST of my CHESS WINNINGS from >>>>TOUNAMENTS have been DONATED to further CHESS! >>>> >>>>YOU are a LOWLIFE BOTTOM FEEDER! I hope they DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT! >>>> >>>> >>>>YOUR DEFAMATORY REMARKS OTOH ARE CRIMINAL! >>>> >>>>We'll see what Steven Schwartz as well as the MODERATORS have to say on this >>>>matter! >>> >>>In message number 254862 you stated: >>> >>>... >>>Yeah I have pirated software. So what can you do about it? Nothing, you pompous >>>ass! >> >>Having pirated software is not stealing(otherwise people can download nothing >>from the internet because maybe it is pirated software). > > I don't know if "stealing" is the correct word, but downloading pirated >software is definetly illegal, IMO. > >>If someone downloaded some pirated software that he believes to be freeware >>then he is not quilty. > > Yes he is. If you do whatever illegal act, you're guilty. Not knowing you're >doing it reduces the punishment, if you can prove you didn't know, but an >illegal act is an illegal act. Otherwise people would argue not knowing the law >and would therefore be inocent all the time. > >>It is also possible that someone sent you by email pirated software that >>you did not ask about it. > > Having an emailed program in your computer for a couple of minutes while you >check if it's legal or not is no problem, as long as you soon delete it. > >>You can delete it from your computer but at least in the time that you got the >>email and did not have time to delete it you have pirated software. >> >>Other ways to get pirated software: >>Suppose that your friend is playing in your computer with his CD and he >install some pirated software. >>You suddenly have pirated software. > > Bad argument. Suppose that your friend brings some weapons to your house. >Suppose that your friend kills a man and hides him in your house. Suppose that >your friend robs a bank and hides the money under your bed... > >>In our world illegal copying of software is a normal behaviour and I believe >>that there is almost no single poster who does not have friends that he knows >>that they use pirated software. > > No excuse. My due as a proffesional programmer is to warn my friends of what >having illegal software means. It means, in the end, that the proffesionals like >me lose the money we deserve for our hard work. > >>You can be against it(I am) but calling every illegal thing that people do a >>crime is only a way to get enemies. > > I don't know the exact definition of the word "crime", but it sounds too >strong for piracy. It sounds like killing someone. > >>I am also against calling copying CD's that you are not allowed to copy >>stealing(It does not mean that I support this illegal act). > > It is stealing then contents of the CD. > >>I think that in most of the cases the person who did it was not going to >>buy the CD even if he knew that he has no way to copy it so >>noboody practically lost money from it when it is clear that in other cases >>of stealing somebody lost money from it. > > Bad reasoning Uri. If you work hard to write a program, so hard that it's an >expensive product, you deserve whoever wants to use it that he pays for it. It's >your right. If someone can't pay for it, he shouldn't get it illegally. It's >unacceptable. The programmer migth decide to create a lite version for poor >people, but that's the programmer's choice. Not having money to buy is not an >excuse to steal. Period. > >>>Not only did you admit to engaging in criminal activity (according to US law, >>>The Digital Millinium Act of 2000) but you insulted my good name. >> >>A crime by the hebrew definition is something that the maximal punishment for >>it is at least sitting 7 years in jail. >> >>> >>>Listen Terry, you can get hysterical all you want. The more you post, >>>the more obvious it becomes to fair minded and reasonable people just >>>how deeply you are involved in criminal matters. In fact, your admission >>>on a public forum that you have pirated software is grounds for my >>>notifying the FBI about you. >>> >>>What do you think of them apples, sparky? >> >>The FBI has better things to do than looking for people who have pirated >>software. >> >>If they arrest everyone who have pirated software then I guess that most of the >>citizens are going to be arrested. > > That would be fair, IMO. Our society is based on the principle that "I do some >work for you, you pay me for it". If someone breaks that principle, he should be >arrested and punished. > >>Almost everybody does in his life something that is against the low. >>It is not a reason to call him criminal. >> >>Uri > > Illegal acts should be punished to defend honest people. > > José C. So you're saying _anyone_ who has a copied CD in their possession, from someone else should be punished, jailed? C'mon, be realistic! Arrest Society! "Monty Python" Terry
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