Author: José Carlos
Date: 14:09:42 09/29/02
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On September 29, 2002 at 13:06:27, Terry McCracken wrote: >On September 29, 2002 at 05:19:35, José Carlos wrote: > >>On September 29, 2002 at 04:12:48, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On September 29, 2002 at 02:22:54, John Smith wrote: >>> >>>>On September 28, 2002 at 22:08:41, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 28, 2002 at 17:57:07, John Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hey Sparky (that fits you so wonderfully), the truth is an absolute defense >>>>>>against both slander and libel. In your previeus post, you admitted to having >>>>>>pirated software on your computer. Pirated software that you did NOT pay for. >>>>>>Therefore, you are a thief. A crook. A member of a most unsavory lot. >>>>>> >>>>>>warmest regards, >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>> >>>>>Coping CD's is common practise and is not the same as TRUE PIRACY, I'm NOT >>>>>SELLING this SOFTWARE! >>>>> >>>>>Also 99% of ALL my software I purchased. All my COMMERCIAL CHESS SOFTWARE IS >>>>>PURCHASED! >>>>> >>>>>I'm NOT a THIEF, I'm NOT a CRIMINAL! Also I've CONTRIBUTED THOUSANDS of DOLLARS >>>>>to CHESS,(HUNDREDS to ICD between 1990-1996), MOST of my CHESS WINNINGS from >>>>>TOUNAMENTS have been DONATED to further CHESS! >>>>> >>>>>YOU are a LOWLIFE BOTTOM FEEDER! I hope they DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>YOUR DEFAMATORY REMARKS OTOH ARE CRIMINAL! >>>>> >>>>>We'll see what Steven Schwartz as well as the MODERATORS have to say on this >>>>>matter! >>>> >>>>In message number 254862 you stated: >>>> >>>>... >>>>Yeah I have pirated software. So what can you do about it? Nothing, you pompous >>>>ass! >>> >>>Having pirated software is not stealing(otherwise people can download nothing >>>from the internet because maybe it is pirated software). >> >> I don't know if "stealing" is the correct word, but downloading pirated >>software is definetly illegal, IMO. >> >>>If someone downloaded some pirated software that he believes to be freeware >>>then he is not quilty. >> >> Yes he is. If you do whatever illegal act, you're guilty. Not knowing you're >>doing it reduces the punishment, if you can prove you didn't know, but an >>illegal act is an illegal act. Otherwise people would argue not knowing the law >>and would therefore be inocent all the time. >> >>>It is also possible that someone sent you by email pirated software that >>>you did not ask about it. >> >> Having an emailed program in your computer for a couple of minutes while you >>check if it's legal or not is no problem, as long as you soon delete it. >> >>>You can delete it from your computer but at least in the time that you got the >>>email and did not have time to delete it you have pirated software. >>> >>>Other ways to get pirated software: >>>Suppose that your friend is playing in your computer with his CD and he >>install some pirated software. >>>You suddenly have pirated software. >> >> Bad argument. Suppose that your friend brings some weapons to your house. >>Suppose that your friend kills a man and hides him in your house. Suppose that >>your friend robs a bank and hides the money under your bed... >> >>>In our world illegal copying of software is a normal behaviour and I believe >>>that there is almost no single poster who does not have friends that he knows >>>that they use pirated software. >> >> No excuse. My due as a proffesional programmer is to warn my friends of what >>having illegal software means. It means, in the end, that the proffesionals like >>me lose the money we deserve for our hard work. >> >>>You can be against it(I am) but calling every illegal thing that people do a >>>crime is only a way to get enemies. >> >> I don't know the exact definition of the word "crime", but it sounds too >>strong for piracy. It sounds like killing someone. >> >>>I am also against calling copying CD's that you are not allowed to copy >>>stealing(It does not mean that I support this illegal act). >> >> It is stealing then contents of the CD. >> >>>I think that in most of the cases the person who did it was not going to >>>buy the CD even if he knew that he has no way to copy it so >>>noboody practically lost money from it when it is clear that in other cases >>>of stealing somebody lost money from it. >> >> Bad reasoning Uri. If you work hard to write a program, so hard that it's an >>expensive product, you deserve whoever wants to use it that he pays for it. It's >>your right. If someone can't pay for it, he shouldn't get it illegally. It's >>unacceptable. The programmer migth decide to create a lite version for poor >>people, but that's the programmer's choice. Not having money to buy is not an >>excuse to steal. Period. >> >>>>Not only did you admit to engaging in criminal activity (according to US law, >>>>The Digital Millinium Act of 2000) but you insulted my good name. >>> >>>A crime by the hebrew definition is something that the maximal punishment for >>>it is at least sitting 7 years in jail. >>> >>>> >>>>Listen Terry, you can get hysterical all you want. The more you post, >>>>the more obvious it becomes to fair minded and reasonable people just >>>>how deeply you are involved in criminal matters. In fact, your admission >>>>on a public forum that you have pirated software is grounds for my >>>>notifying the FBI about you. >>>> >>>>What do you think of them apples, sparky? >>> >>>The FBI has better things to do than looking for people who have pirated >>>software. >>> >>>If they arrest everyone who have pirated software then I guess that most of the >>>citizens are going to be arrested. >> >> That would be fair, IMO. Our society is based on the principle that "I do some >>work for you, you pay me for it". If someone breaks that principle, he should be >>arrested and punished. >> >>>Almost everybody does in his life something that is against the low. >>>It is not a reason to call him criminal. >>> >>>Uri >> >> Illegal acts should be punished to defend honest people. >> >> José C. > >So you're saying _anyone_ who has a copied CD in their possession, from someone >else should be punished, jailed? C'mon, be realistic! Did I say jailed? Please, read my post again, I didn't. But I want my job to be paid, not used for free. If work is not paid, nobody's gonna work. Please, understand my point of view. I'm not saying that everyone that has a copied CD must go to jail. There're different levels of illegality. Some deserve jail, others just a fine. But if my work is not protected by the law and the judges, I don't want to do that job anymore. I don't know what do you work at, but imagine they didn't pay you. You work; you don't get paid; that's what piracy does to us computer programmers. Think about it. José C. >Arrest Society! "Monty Python" > >Terry
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