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Subject: Re: crafty faster on AMD however

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 01:17:26 09/30/02

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On September 29, 2002 at 23:31:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:

Comon you haven't even installed gcc 3.1,
last time we chatted (some months ago), i already
months before that told you about gcc 3.1 and you
still were in the 2.95 times...

>On September 29, 2002 at 11:31:35, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On September 28, 2002 at 11:12:29, Tom Likens wrote:
>>
>>For DIEP the gcc 3.1 compiler and further produce way
>>faster code based upon enabling profiling. the 3.1+
>>gcc versions profit more from it than intel does.
>>
>>At a P3 even the gcc compiler is not measurable faster much,
>>but the real difference happens on the k7. It seems to me
>>that the intel guys of course didn't improve their compiler
>>for the AMD processor. Instead it's only optimized for P4.
>>Not even for P3 they achieve the best possible results,
>>as GCC proves.
>
>I don't know what this means.  I have several dozen programs (Crafty
>is only one) that we have run using intel's compiler and gcc, and in
>_every_ case, Intel's compiler is faster.  On P2's, on P3's and on
>P4's...  Of course I wouldn't use intel's compiler for an AMD chip,
>why would they want to optimize for a competitor's chip???
>
>
>
>>
>>I am under the impression that gcc simply is so fast for
>>me simply because of better profiling capabilities.
>>
>>It increases speed by over 20%.
>>
>>>On September 27, 2002 at 23:37:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip!]
>>>
>>>>>>>So reality is that the above result in reality is even more positive for
>>>>>>>AMD than it looks like. We simply cannot trust these intel c++ compiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sure you can.  I have tested the 6.0 release of their compiler exhaustively,
>>>>>>comparing various optimizations with a known good executable from gcc 2.95.2,
>>>>>>and the intel compiler is producing perfect code from a comparison of the
>>>>>>two...
>>>
>>>Actually, in my tests it's producing *significantly* faster code (especially, if
>>>you use the profile-enabled optimizations).
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>--tom



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