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Subject: Re: Another thing..

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:05:48 09/30/02

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On September 30, 2002 at 02:13:54, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On September 29, 2002 at 23:43:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>1.  I didn't see anyone post _any_ 1.7x number for AMD when I asked for them
>>a week or two back.
>
>It was in a seperate post. Slate benched a number of the latest binaries I
>compiled with automatic parallelization.
>
>>2.  I don't see how the binary is going to affect this at all.  You should
>>get the same ratio of single to dual whether you use a fully-optimized binary
>>or one with no optimizing at all.  Since the dual speed is relative to the
>>single cpu version, the base NPS is unimportant.
>
>Perhaps you should test this yourself if you can. Slate got 1.4x with your
>binary, 1.7x with mine.
>
>>No, actually I am using a quad intel machine.  Where are the quad AMDs?  Why
>>do you think there are none?  Think about "scaling"...
>
>Clawhammers & Opterons will be out in a few months and there has already been
>pictures posted of dual/quad Hammers. Also if I recall correctly
>my single Athlon is faster than your Quad.

I wouldn't argue that point.  My quad 700 is getting around 1.6M nodes per
second using the intel compiler.  However, a quad itanium-2 shows a lot more
promise, if raw speed is the issue.

I'm more interested in a slower quad than a faster dual, because the 4 processor
machine is more difficult to use efficiently, and that is what the parallel
search is all about.


> :) My board + chip now days costs
>$154 together. I'm sure it would still cost over $500 to build that quad you
>have which is slower. :) The gap would be huge if you drop a 2600+ in here and
>even more so with a 2600+ at 2.5GHz. A quad may 'sound' nice but if all the cpus
>are slow then whats the point?

There are some fast quads out.  I've seen linux output from a quad 2.2 intel
machine (xeon-based).  There are plenty of 1.5-1.6ghz quads around, but the
processors are not compatible with my older MB.




>
>>Except that I can buy a quad or 8-way P4 system, but not an AMD.  And now
>>they get left in the dust...  Not cheap of course..  But not even doable with
>>AMD.
>
>See above.



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