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Subject: Re: Time control in the CM9000 Christensen Match

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:40:26 09/30/02

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On September 30, 2002 at 15:20:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 30, 2002 at 12:28:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 30, 2002 at 11:55:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 29, 2002 at 23:55:57, Rick Terry wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 29, 2002 at 23:16:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 29, 2002 at 16:33:50, Rick Terry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is the time control in this Match comparable to 40/2 or to the Current Fide
>>>>>>Standard time control?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not even close...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the time control would have made a difference in the results,
>>>>Larry simply pushed too hard in several of the games, where he should have taken
>>>>the draw.
>>>
>>>
>>>I simply didn't like the time control.  It was basically "two minutes a
>>>move, period" whichi is not too fast, but it is _way_ different for a GM to
>>>play that way.  IE if you watch a GM play, he plays a bunch of moves almost
>>>instantly, but at some point will go into a "deep think" and burn a lot of
>>>time mapping out long-term strategy.  This time control prevented that,
>>>which makes it less appealing.
>>
>>only in part of the cases.
>>If the GM plays relatively fast in the opening then he has time for deep think
>>later.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Maybe.  IE if he moves instantly for 8 moves, he has about 15 minutes for
>a "deep think" but then has to use no more than 2 minutes per move from then
>on.
>
>We did a GM vs computers tournament (round robin) on chess.net a few years
>back.  I was involved in a lot of discussion about time controls since chess.net
>is also based on the FICS code and doesn't do "normal" time controls either.
>The base time vs increment was a _big_ topic with the GMs, while I just sat back
>and listened since I didn't think Crafty "cared" one way or the other...
>
>But their point was to try to find something that would "feel natural" to them
>as in playing real tournament games.

You may be right. Larry didn't seem to have any problem with the 2+120 control,
so I guess it was ok for him. IIRC, his clock only got below five minutes once
during the entire match. I can verify this by loading the CMG files, which
maintain the clocks during each move. Also, doesn't ICC show the clocks at each
move when you are examining a game? That would probably be the easiest way to
tell for sure, because CM's clocks did not accurately reflect ICC's clocks
because it was being hand-operated, and we were losing about 10 seconds per move
in the transfer....

jm



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