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Subject: Re: Next challenge for computers after it defeats all humans.

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 23:47:23 09/30/02

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On October 01, 2002 at 02:17:18, emerson tan wrote:

>The next challenge for computers after it defeat all humans is the computer to
>play without any opening books and endgame tablebases. Openings of the computers
>will just be algorithms on general opening principles and not to repeat opening
>mistakes. It would make the programs “play” a complete game of chess. All play
>would be its own.
>
>If the time comes that even without opening books and tablebases, the computer
>defeats all humans, the next challenge will be correspondence chess.

What you say is highly debatable. You assume that databases cannot be a part of
a chess playing program, which is not true. You would need to create a strict
set of rules that would determine what constitutes an "opening book" or "endgame
tablebases." I think that no matter what rules you come up with, there will
always be ways around it. How do you expect the program to learn from it's
mistakes if it can't keep a database of it's mistakes?

I think databases will become a bigger part of chess programs in the future, not
a smaller part.

If you think creating rules for defining what the chess engine is and what is
not allowed to be used (like opening books or endgame tablebases) I think you
are mistaken. This is a non-trivial task. Take your shot at it, and watch as
everyone rips it to shreds. They always do :)

Besides, I think we should still be worrying about human vs. computer chess,
because computers haven't proven to be superior just yet. Things will be even
more unclear when Fritz and Junior lose.

Russell



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