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Subject: Re: Fantasy positions ?

Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes

Date: 05:13:30 10/02/02

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On October 02, 2002 at 07:03:58, Manfred Meiler wrote:

>On October 02, 2002 at 03:41:46, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2002 at 02:49:33, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>According to CSS WM position test it's specially good in positional and endgame
>>>play and relatively weaker in king attack. I think the last means same as
>>>tactics. But in my test suites it's also good tactically (e.g. it founds some
>>>well known mate in 18 and 30(!) quite fast). So may be the secret is, that it
>>>has no big weakness at all. Or what do You think?
>>>
>>>Jouni
>
>>
>>Hi Jouni,
>>
>>this program is very strong for king attack.
>>
>>A program must play the moves which are important for a king attack. Ruffian
>>make this. Not important are fantasy positions with a clear move. So I am not a
>>fan from test suits.
>>
>>In my opinion is the best test suite the LCTII test.
>>But look what Ruffian here make. Gandalf is over 120 ELO better compare to
>>Ruffian :-)
>>
>>An interview with Ruffian programmer Perola Valfridsson is in next days
>>available on Arena webpage (Ruffian is a partner program from Arena). It's one
>>of the questions from our interview team.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>
>Hello Frank,
>
>some days ago I've sent my excel sheet with the WM-Test results of Ruffian 1.0.0
>and 117 other (versions of) engines (on AMD TB 1400 mhz) to Perola; maybe you're
>interessed on his answer ?
>
>"... Thanks for sending me this very interesting comparison of chess
>engines. I think you are right in your conclusion that Ruffian is
>weaker than some other engines when it comes to king attack. It is
>also my impression that Ruffian, compared to some other engines, is
>strong at endgame." <snip>

You can see here how strongly Ruffian plays the endgame:
 http://www.wck-computerschach.de/
 [D]6k1/p5p1/4r3/1p3Q2/1Pb5/3p2PP/3K4/8 b - - 0 95
 Ruffian played 95...a5!! and won. It found the move in 40 sec.




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