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Subject: Re: I think TIGER is mega strong and a great improvement Don't PLAY MORE!

Author: Jorge

Date: 11:26:06 10/02/02

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On October 02, 2002 at 13:49:54, Marc van Hal wrote:

>On October 02, 2002 at 12:48:34, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2002 at 11:42:05, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>If in the first 3 games Tiger lost to ruffian, and Tiger seemed not to even have
>>>claws, then I would NOT say play more. I would say that it is virtual evidence
>>>either that Tiger is not all that great, or that something else was wrong, in
>>>this case-I'd think the later.
>>>
>>>A strong machine should be seen to be "playing chess", unlike a strong human who
>>>might just be having a bad day.
>>>3 games lost, is 100% loss throught three games. And the first 3 games are
>>>statistically much more substantial than any other 3, even consecutive,
>>>somewhere later on. (because, why the very first three?).
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>i am having tiger 15 for a long time now.
>>i have 2 autoplayer pairs. one 400 and one 1200 pair.
>>
>>if it would be a loser, i would have seen it.
>>
>>chessfun has played lots of games too. and the other beta test team.
>>
>>when i hear/read those kind of posting... i would at first check if
>>the machine is right, the programs are installed accurate.
>>
>>if you e.g. don't increase the hash tables and mix KB with MB tiger
>>plays with 48 kilobytes for hash. this is indeed not much and could
>>decrease the strength IMO drastically.
>>
>>
>>why don't you believe several different people who have the program for
>>many weeks ??
>>
>>why do you trust such a post ??
>>
>>i never matched ruffian, because when ruffian came out, my testings of
>>tiger15 have been ended before. but if you want i can set up 60/60
>>games against ruffian 1.0.1.
>>
>>if this helps, on both autoplayers.
>
>
>
>Ofcourse I want to believe you.
>But i must see evidence on my System and not on somebody elses system.
>
>But seeing the games it played against Ruffian and some against Chessmaster
>realy disapointed me
>Ofcourse when I get the evidence I will change my vieuw and also will put a
>positive revieuw wich I  can't do for now.
>So ok I admit my curent revieuw might be made to early.
>But the reason where my first conclusions and most of all disapointment.
>
>Marc

What was your Hash settings? It is somewhat unlikely that Tiger is beaten by
Ruffian 3 in a row.

jorge



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