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Subject: Re: Does 64 bit architecture have any benefit on chess programs?

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 13:55:49 10/02/02

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On October 02, 2002 at 14:54:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>I do not know a single supercomputer with alpha 21264 at 1.25 Ghz. Correct
>me if i'm wrong. If i browse around at top500.org i see:

Well, there aren't ANY McKinleys on that list at ANY clock speed. What are you
implying?

>For me Mckinley is way faster than alpha. Alpha 21264c for me is
>slower than K7. Not much. But still. McKinley is 33% faster.

You said McKinley is 33% faster PER CLOCK than the Athlon. Sorry, but that means
it sucks.

>We still didn't talk about things like branch mispredictions. The alpha
>has very big penalties for a branch misprediction. i don't know about

How do you figure?

>mckinley but seeing the results i had at the 2 cpu's i bet the mckinley
>is either having less or handling it better somehow.

Surely you know that IA-64 has predication?

>So i don't know what you care for, but i care for what i have SEEN. I see
>that the mckinley is with an edition 1.0 compiler already way faster than
>any other cpu i ever have seen.

Except for a 1.4GHz Athlon, apparently.

>Now i don't know how hard guys like nalimov work, but obviously the
>intel c++ team that made that cross compiler which i used to benchmark
>diep on mckinley, they have a big disadvantage in time compared to the
>alpha team who already could work on the alpha compiler for a quarter
>of a century or so (?).

The Alpha was released in 92... don't worry, you're only off by a factor of 2.5.

-Tom



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