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Subject: Re: Junior 5 - Crafty 15.17 40/120 games

Author: Moritz Berger

Date: 18:35:47 08/28/98

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On August 28, 1998 at 20:52:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On August 28, 1998 at 19:17:15, Moritz Berger wrote:
>
>>The explanation is very simple: I only started using Junior after August 21st.
>>At least that's the arrival date of the Junior 5 executable in my email inbox...
>>
>>My results on ICC since then were
>>
>>70: + 2645 W 2726 Data         [ br  5   4] B35 Res Aug 28 98 15:53
>>69: = 2623 B 2748 Data         [ br  5   4] C51 Rep Aug 28 98 15:36
>>68: + 2617 W 2523 XXXX-2       [ br  2  12] B17 Res Aug 21 98 19:18
>>67: = 2604 B 2536 XXXX-2       [ br  2  12] B40 Agr Aug 21 98 18:55
>>66: + 2607 W 2533 XXXX-2       [ br  2  12] D48 Mat Aug 21 98 18:41
>>65: + 2593 B 2531 XXXX-2       [ br  2  12] B40 Mat Aug 21 98 16:20
>>64: + 2578 W 2546 XXXX-2       [ br  2  12] C19 Mat Aug 21 98 15:45
>>
>>and one game that I courtesyadjourned at Crafty's request in a +3.5 (J5)position
>
>1. Junior is very strong.
>2. XXXX-2 is * not * a Crafty.
>
>bruce

I already know about 1. and 2.
I just posted some results for the Nunn test Junior 5 vs. Crafty 15.17.
Then Mark Young asked about potential weaknesses in the suspected way Junior
works (preprocessing etc.). I had just finished 3 games on ICC where Junior
played very strong and posted them to show him - hey, don't worry about
preprocessing or not, Junior plays very nice chess, here's some games from ICC.

Suddenly Bob started quoting results from games where I didn't use Junior at
all. He didn't claim that I did, but he somehow related performance of
completely different programs with my results for J5.

If Crafty wasn't a strong opponent, Junior's good results against it wouldn't be
worth mentioning, agreed? But since Crafty is strong and is some kind of
reference, I found it conclusive to play a series of "controlled opening" games
between the 2 engines to find out about relative strength at Blitz, at Action
and Standard time controls, on P233MMX and PII-400.

Moritz



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