Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 09:15:19 10/04/02
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On October 04, 2002 at 12:05:00, Sune Fischer wrote: >On October 04, 2002 at 11:57:52, Terry Ripple wrote: > >>On October 04, 2002 at 11:29:24, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On October 04, 2002 at 11:05:24, Terry Ripple wrote: >>> >>>>On October 04, 2002 at 10:34:43, Omid David wrote: >>>> >>>>>Just today we had a discussion regarding the importance of blockade draw >>>>>detections http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?255950 >>>>> >>>>>Had Fritz implemented such a scheme, it wouldn't have stepped into the drawing >>>>>variation. >>>>> >>>>>My engine instantly announced draw based on its blocked-draw detection >>>>>heuristic. While Fritz never realized the draw... >>>>> >>>>>Omid. >>>>---------------- >>>> >>>>But you simply can't always make compter avoid blocked-draw positions or the >>>>program might lose by simply trying to push too hard for a win when it should >>>>accept the drawn position! >>>> >>>>In top level play if black tries for a draw it is very hard for white! >>> >>>True, and if Fritz really intended to play for the draw then it would have been >>>okay. >>>The problem is fritz didn't "understand" that it was going into a solid draw, >>>its evaluation is simply broken. Maybe the result would have been the same >>>regardless for this game, but obviously you should not expect to see a program >>>as strong as fritz evaluate so poorly. Bad evaluation will cost you points in >>>the long run, for sure. >>> >>>-S. >>---------------- >>I agree to that, but this position was talked about on Chess.FM by some of the >>grandmasters who thought that the position was still hopeless and the same >>outcome in the game was inevidible! > >Kramnik was thinking, if I manage to trade rooks, and get my king there and move >the bishop there, or do this and that and give him a double pawn there, then >it's draw! > >Even with 20 ply searches Fritz is not going to see this if it can't staticly >detect the draw far out around the leafs. > >-S. This is also true! > >>Terry >>> >>>>
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