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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 15 observations/comments/questions

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 08:30:37 10/05/02

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On October 05, 2002 at 02:46:07, Lex Loep wrote:

>On October 04, 2002 at 20:40:55, john rice wrote:
>
>>Just finished installing the download version of CT15 from the lokasoft site. I
>>must say the included Chesspartner 5.2 gui is better than I had expected. Having
>>only used the Chessbase/Fritz gui before, I was a little apprehensive about
>>using a new interface. Although the Chessparter gui doesn't have as much "eye
>>candy" as Chessbase, it is still impressive none the less. It has more of a
>>Microsoft Windows feel to it.
>>Having played around with some of the options and settings, I have several
>>questions about various features.
>>
>>1. I can't find an option to optimize the opening book. Maybe this is just a
>>Chessbase thing, but I would really like to know I'm using the best book options
>>available. The only book options I could find were: Variation (set at 50%
>>default) and Learning Strength (also set at 50% default). Common sense tells me
>>to set Variation to 0% and Learning Strength to 100% for maximum book
>>performance, but I have to wonder why these settings are not the default.
>>
>
>These options are only when 'Use GUI books' is selected. The default
>installation lets the engine handle its own book.
>
>>2. Chessbase has an Optimize Strength feature that will set up the program for
>>best performance. I don't see this option in the Chesspartner gui. Is CT15
>>already set up for best performance? Does this have to be done manually?
>>
>
>You have to do in manually, the only parameters you would need to change
>is the hashtbable size and possible the path to the endgame table bases.
>
>>3. The downloaded version was only 15MB in size. Therefore the opening book is
>>very small. Only a few megabytes, unlike Fritz7 which is over 200MB in size! How
>>can CT15's relatively tiny opening book be as good as Fritz7's huge book?
>>
>
>The size of the book is 7.8 MB, its called ct.tbk. The book is made
>by Jeroen Noomen and is one of the best books around. The size of a book
>say nothing about its quality. I could take a million GM games and generate
>a book from it, it would be very big but not of good quality.
>
>
>
>>4. When looking in the CT15 engine folder, the only endgame tablebases there are
>>the 3 man. No 4 or 5 man like the features list stated. Should I add the 4 man
>>tb's in the folder as well? I've already downloaded all the 5 man tb's, and have
>>them in another location with the path listed in CT15's directory.
>>
>
>Under Extra -> Engine propertie - EndGame
>Make sure you have set the Tablebase path in there.
>
>>5. Last but not least, since the increment time setting does not work properly,
>>what is the best way to play a manual game against another computer using ficher
>>time controls. For example, if the time settings are 10/10 should I set my time
>>control to 15/0, 20/0, 25/0 or what? It is very difficult to judge what time
>>setting will be the most effecient.
>>
>
>I cant tell, I generally don't do this sorts of test but perhaps
>Christophe or one of the testers can tell.



If the time controls are X+Y where X is the initial total time of the game
(min)and Y the increment per move (sec) and you are using Y as an operator time,
then it should work approximately well because the increment is not supposed to
be used by the engine but by you.

The problem is when the operator time does not exist (computers are connected
together) and the increment is supposed to be used as thinking time. Tiger does
not know how to do that correctly.

Actually it always considers Y as operator time (positive or negative).



    Christophe





>>Overall, the Chess Tiger 15/Chessparter Gui package is very immpressive. I
>>strongly recommend you give it a try.
>
>Thanks,
>Lex



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