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Subject: Re: Deep Fritz (and all programs) had no idea that the endgame was losing

Author: martin fierz

Date: 15:10:00 10/06/02

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On October 06, 2002 at 14:14:47, Roy Eassa wrote:

>I believe that Kramnik would have won that endgame (after the minor pieces and
>one pair of rooks were traded off) against any opponent, human or machine.  He
>*knew* that he knew how to win it for sure, but Deep Fritz and all other
>computers did not understand that Black would lose by force.  Nor would most
>humans rated under 2200, I think.

on ICC gm svidler was commenting, and when they were at the start of the rook
ending he started discussing with udav(GM) (don't know who that is).
they both more or less immediately stated that after 34....Kd7 it's game over.
and suggested that black's only chance was 34....Rd8 of which GM karsten mueller
on the chessbase website only says "34...Rd8 35.Ke2 doesnt help."
but they were looking at this: 34...Rd8 35. Ke2 b3. the idea is 36. Rc5 f6 37.
Rxa5 Rc8 and some counterplay. svidler and udav thought this was not so clear
and definitely blacks best chance. svidler also said "i know the computer is not
going to play this" :-)

bottom line: maybe black could have saved himself with active defence

aloha
  martin



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