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Subject: Re: Apropos blocked positions.

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 02:11:21 10/07/02

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On October 06, 2002 at 21:56:49, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On October 06, 2002 at 18:02:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2002 at 17:33:56, Dadi Jonsson wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2002 at 17:01:43, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>>
>>>>How long before your favourite engine finds the winning move?
>>>>[D]5k2/1q4bQ/5p1p/p1p1pPpP/2PpP1P1/Pp1P4/1P5K/5B2 b - - 0 1
>>>>A subvariation from a game I played against a computer recently. I'm black.
>>>>
>>>>MvH Dan Andersson
>>>
>>>A nice position for Black, but instead of asking for "the winning move" it's
>>>more interesting to try to find ALL the moves that lead to a victory for Black.
>>>
>>>Ruffian likes Qc7 and sees it as a winning line in around 2 minutes on an AMD
>>>1400. 1...a4 and 1...Qb6 probably also lead to the same conclusion. Possibly
>>>other moves also lead to a win.
>>
>>
>>Yace see nothing inspite of getting depth 22.
>>
>>On the other hand old Deep Fritz is fast in seeing Qc7 but has no idea why it is
>>winning and the pv is only one move Qc7.
>>Movei at depth 18 can see advantage for black with a4 but no convincing score
>>(only +0.55 for black)
>
>It takes some depth 25 to see the win with programs I've tried.

Sacrificing the queen get's pruned by nullmove, when I turn nullmove off in
frenzee I get some interesting pv's:
depth=13 -1.15 1...Qd7 1.Kg1 Qa4 2.Kf2 Qxa3 3.bxa3 b2 4.Qg6 b1=Q 5.Be2 Qb2 6.Qh7
Qxa3 7.Bd1 Qxd3

-S.



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