Author: Chessfun
Date: 06:37:31 10/07/02
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On October 07, 2002 at 03:10:39, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 06, 2002 at 23:12:43, Chessfun wrote: > >>On October 06, 2002 at 22:41:50, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>How many professionals participated in france ??? >>> >>>:-)))) >>> >>>how big are the chances to be better than amateurs >>>when the only professional is tiger ?? >>> >>>tiger 15 is weaker in tournaments because it plays more acurate >>>(petrosian alike) than other tiger versions. >>> >>>this playing style is not good for tournaments. it is on the >>>other hand better for long matches. >>> >>>for championships it would IMO be better to participate >>>with an aggressive program that shortly after the opening >>>takes over initiative. >>> >>> >>>but : you "told us so". >>> >>>why do we test programs anyway ? >>>maybe it would be much easier to ask you before, and >>>write a religious speech about in CCC :-))) >>> >>>we sell our PC's, and become a member of your relgion :-)) >>> >>>the style of tiger versions has changed IMO >>>very often: >>> >>>tiger 11.2 was IMO agressive attacker, took the initiative soon >>>tiger 12 was petrosian, calm and positional player >>>tiger 13 aggressive >>>tiger 14 aggressive >>>tiger 15 more like petrosian with a piece of fischer IMO >>> >>> >>>I do prefer the more aggressive programs too. >>> >>>with a passive program, you can be lucky to get a draw (in ONE game). >>>thats not enough for a tournament . >>> >>>in a tournament you must collect as much points as you can get. >>>a draw is not enough. >>> >>>so passive style leads to losses. >> >>CPU utilisé par chaque programme : >> >>Time control 20/5? >> >>1. Chess Wizard Ath 1750 >>2. Pharon Ath 2000 >>3. Chinito Ath 1530 >>4. Dragon Ath 1600+ >>5. Chess Tiger PIII 1 ghz. >> >>Why would Tiger be sent to play on this hardware? >> >>Sarah. > >Probably in order to do the tournament more interesting. > >It is still surprising that Pharon scored better than Tiger. > >Pharon is a free program so it is supposed to be Naturally the version which played is likely not currently freeware what it's actual rating relevant to Tiger would be who knows. >more than 100 elo weaker than tiger so if the hardware is >2 times faster then it means that Tiger is still favourite >(if the assumption of 70 elo per doubling is correct). Assuming your numbers are correct 30 ELO advantage, why would I want to play a tournament with only 30 ELO advantage when using say a XP 1800 would leave me with my 100 ELO? Point is simple enough, why go to war with sticks and stones when Tanks are readily available?. >The time control is not supposed to be a big advantage for >the opponents >because I assume that 5 is the operator time and >if the real operator time is smaller then I think that >operators can use safely 21 or 22 minutes for tiger >in the beginning of the game. Sure they can, however wanna bet they didn't? Sarah.
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