Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Date: 07:04:11 10/07/02
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On October 06, 2002 at 16:16:19, Sune Fischer wrote: >And what will happen to it if/when they drop it like a bad habit? The UCI engines and Arena will still exist. >Okay, but again I don't think free engines and commercial GUIs have much in >common, it isn't a very good sales argument, IMO. Sales argument? >So it is better to have the GUI play half the game for the engine? >Where is the excitement in that? What are you talking about? >I've also heard there are problems with learning! I've also heard Deep Blue is going to play Fisher! Some methods of learning that are done in WinBoard programs are not going to work very well in UCI. There are other methods, and there are solutions to make them work. >Last but not least, the engine is running in force mode, this means you either >need a new (simpler) protocol for when playing in the console, You need this with WinBoard as well because the WinBoard protocol is IMHO unfit for direct user usage. Moreover, UCI is an interface to the GUI. If you don't use a GUI, you shouldn't use UCI! >I agree the user probably wants some eye candy with buttons and sliders for >various settings such as the size of the hash table, but this has nothing to do >with professionalism. A good common and consistent interface for the user is IMHO exactly what it is about. >You can always write it in XML if you want a clean >standard. What has XML to do with getting a clean standard? >To my knowledge there is still no UCI GUI for linux, the >OS of professionals, I don't know what you mean here. How many professional chessprograms are sold for Linux? Currently, only Vincent does it. Christophe will offer one for free, but that is not selling, so it doesn't count. I develop on Linux, and so does Christophe, but I don't need a GUI like WinBoard or Arena for that. >>Not to mention the difference in cleanness. > >That is your personal opinion - I completely disagree ;) You prefer the race conditions and the redundant commands I'm sure. -- GCP
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