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Subject: Re: GM Nigel comments

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 15:39:47 10/07/02

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On October 07, 2002 at 15:26:11, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 07, 2002 at 15:14:06, Ed Panek wrote:
>
>>On October 07, 2002 at 14:45:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 07, 2002 at 13:17:30, Matthew Barnett wrote:
>>>
>>>>I agree.  There was still a little way to go for Kramnik.  Given that Kramnik
>>>>was way down on time (about 3 mins) compared to Fritz, I think this alone would
>>>>have been a legitimate reason to play on.  Your time trouble is something your
>>>>opponent can use in their favour: it's part of the game.  Otherwise, why have
>>>>clocks?
>>>>
>>>>Bests
>>>>
>>>>Matthew
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think that you underestimate kramnik if you think that he can blunder in
>>>that pawn endgame.
>>>
>>>The only reason to continue is to convince some people
>>>who do not understand it.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>The point isnt about blundering though..its about sweat and work. Its an 8 game
>>match. For the match to be level Fritz should use all advantages even if the
>>return is immediately nil. The long term effects on Kramnik might be worth it.
>>IF you are cycling the tour de france and after the second leg you are losing to
>>the leader, do you simply stop pushing the leader because he has won this leg
>>anyways? I dont. I make that guy work and think ok you beat me but see that I
>>fight to the end. Now next time we race he thinks..well if I get the lead.. i
>>must now worry about him not letting up on me and making me play every pebble
>>and scrap of dirt on the track.
>>
>>   Is there a rule somewhere that GM dont have to mate opponents?
>
>There is no formal rule but there is a practical rule that says that Gm's
>usually resign in positions like the position of Fritz against kramnik.
>
>I believe that most GM's are going to resign in the same position that Deep
>Fritz resigned and maybe even in an earlier position.
>
>Uri

I am pretty sure most GM's would play on some moves.
And I even know Kramnik easely would have won that game
But on the board it is not so clear.
The etiquete where I was talking about is resign only when even a beginner knows
how to win that position.
And that stage was not reached yet.
I can show you a position where the Fritz team would have resigned while 2 moves
later the game was a draw and the oponent then did resign in the equal position.
How stupid can you be!

Marc



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