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Subject: Re: Urgently Needed: Catalogue of Already Invented Ideas

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 13:51:04 08/30/98

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On August 28, 1998 at 11:49:25, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>
>To Steven et al:
>The recent post of a friend here proposing an improvement of 100% with “only”
>fathering a chess program armed with two engines has made me think in how enough
>lay people -like myself and many more- fall once and again in the old sin to
>believe that what they does not know, then nobody knows. This does not happens
>in the commons and known areas of science where the college or university
>studies has learned us about the elementals, so we know we cannot discover them
>again. And what is beyond the elementals, we know it is stuff only for
>specialist to develop.
>But nowhere chess programming is taught, being more a craft than a science. So,
>apart from the smiths dedicated to it, nobody know nothing about it. Then, each
>time a smart layman fall in love with this field, he sooner or later confound
>his ignorance with a collective one and so also fall in the temptation to
>rediscover the wheel and the powder. We tend to think that our ignorance mirror
>a kind of waste land and very soon from that mistaken perspective we feel we can
>save the industry with a new, genial idea that is old like time. We does not
>perceive that it is of necessity that just any intelligent people that gives a
>thought to an area of knowledge is entitled to discover the elementals of it, or
>at least some of them. We don’t see that and so,  amazed by our  “intelligence”,
>we go in a rush to communicate the discovery to the world. Today is dual
>engines, tomorrow is piece tables, etc.
>Sometimes this is funny. In my university times, when Marxism was the fashion, I
>remember I tried to “refute” the Marxist theory of plusvalue and for that
>purpose I dedicate a full evening, lying in bed, to thing economic problem from
>scratch and then I wrote all that and I presented to my teacher, that laughed as
>a mad: what I have done, he told to me, was to rediscover the principles of
>Ricardian economy of the XVIII century, no more than that. And certainly with
>that I was not going to refute nothing. I was lucky enough that he gave me a
>good qualification after all. Not very differently is the behaviour of those
>here that once and again thinks in something so  bright as to evaluate with that
>or this technique that is being applied since 1965.
>So, what can be done to avoid these silly mistakes from all us, non chess
>programmers? I propose to create a section, side by side with the poll, name
>“catalog of invented ideas” where real chess programmer with a minute or two to
>expend can go and write things like these: “dual engines exist since 1976 and
>the inventor was Mr.... It did not work...”. Or longer and more detailed
>accounts if they wish. At the end we, laymen, would have a long list of already
>invented ideas not to be reinvented again and in the process to look at it we
>could learn something.  Even it may  happen that armed in that way we could
>expend our energies to something really new and maybe become useful for the
>field.
>Fernando

If Bob Hyatt ever writes the definitive book on computer chess, and everybody
reads it, we won't have this problem.
--
Komputer Korner



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