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Subject: Re: RUFFIAN finds Rd4!!

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 19:13:09 10/07/02

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On October 07, 2002 at 11:33:59, Chessfun wrote:

>On October 07, 2002 at 11:19:25, Rex wrote:
>
>>Everyone is saying how a computer program will_not_and does not see Rd4 played
>>by Kramnik Ver DF in the second game.  Well I got some news.  The new kid on the
>>block Ruffian finds Rd4 in just over 10 minutes on a 1.533Ghz computer as
>>Ruffian also found move a4 played by Kramnik in just over 6 minutes.  Folks
>>Ruffian needs some serious looking into.  It play MORE like a top GM than a
>>GREAT chess program..
>>
>>
>>00:00:01.8	0.06	10	1924910	f4 Rxc6 Rxc6+ Kd7 Rd6+ Ke8 Rd2 Bb3 Bd6
>>00:00:04.0	0.03	11	4443997	f4 Rxc6 Rxc6+ Kd7 Rd6+ Ke8 fxe5 Bb3 e6
>>00:00:05.7	0.11	11	6444578	Rd2+ Kf6 Bxa8 Rxa8 Rd6+ Be6 Rc6 h6 Rc7
>>00:00:08.3	0.16	12	9285118	Rd2+ Ke6 Bd7+ Kf6 Bxc8 Rxc8 Bb6 Ra8
>>00:00:13.9	0.21	13	15649320	Rd2+ Ke6 Bd7+ Kf6 Bxc8 Rxc8 Bb6
>>00:00:23.1	0.14	14	26190965	Rd2+ Ke6 Bd7+ Kf6 Bxc8 Rxc8 Bb6
>>00:01:11.2	0.16	15	79888792	Rd2+ Ke6 Bd7+ Kf6 Bxc8 Rxc8 Bb6
>>00:02:01.3	0.24	16	133327361	Rd2+ Kf6 Bxa8 Rxa8 Rd6+ Be6 Rc
>>00:04:01.9	0.20	17	257524200	Rd2+ Kf6 Bxa8 Rxa8 Rd6+ Be6 Rc6
>>00:09:03.2	0.17	18	570849169	Rd2+ Kf6 Bxa8 Rxa8 Rd6+ Be6 Rc6
>>00:10:13.3	0.18	18	644476316	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7
>>00:15:30.8	0.19	19	983965780	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[D] r1r5/4kppp/2BR4/p1B1p3/Ppb1P3/5PP1/1P5P/4K3 w - - 0 1
>
>I'm sure many programs find Rd4+
>
>
>ChessTiger 15.0 normal.
>
>00:00:00.0	0.20	3	2952	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	4	3780	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	5	5819	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	6	8229	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.12	7	15935	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Rd8 h4
>00:00:00.1	0.16	8	28941	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Rd8 Rc7+ Ke6 h4
>00:00:00.2	0.10	9	78833	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 Kd6
>00:00:00.5	0.16	10	187223	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 Kd6 Rd5+ Ke6
>Kd2
>00:00:00.8	0.10	11	295835	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Kc6
>00:00:01.8	0.12	12	697447	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 Kd3
>00:00:03.1	0.12	13	1236179	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 Kd3
>00:00:06.6	0.18	14	2525588	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Kd3
>00:00:13.1	0.18	15	4937802	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Kd3
>00:00:24.3	0.22	16	9324884	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Ke3 Ra8 h4
>00:00:57.6	0.22	17	22400902	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 Ke3 Ra7 h4 b3 Rd8
>
>
>ChessTiger 15.0 gambit agressive.
>
>00:00:00.0	0.20	3	2952	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	4	3780	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	5	5819	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.26	6	8229	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6
>00:00:00.0	0.12	7	15935	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Rd8 h4
>00:00:00.1	0.16	8	28941	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Rd8 Rc7+ Ke6 h4
>00:00:00.2	0.10	9	78833	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 Kd6
>00:00:00.5	0.16	10	187223	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 Kd6 Rd5+ Ke6
>Kd2
>00:00:00.8	0.10	11	295834	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Kc6
>00:00:02.0	0.12	12	697453	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 Kd3
>00:00:03.3	0.12	13	1236187	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 Kd3
>00:00:06.5	0.18	14	2525245	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Kd3
>00:00:13.2	0.18	15	4936304	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Kd3
>00:00:24.3	0.22	16	9322716	Rd4+ Kf6 Rxc4 Rxc6 Be7+ Kxe7 Rxc6 Kd7 Rc5 f6 Kd2 Kd6
>Rd5+ Ke6 b3 Ra7 Ke3 Ra8 h4



Who cares?

It is much more interesting to point out that Ruffian finds it. Even if it takes
longer than Tiger 15 or Genius 2.

You are not going to get much attention by mentionning that Tiger would have
played it.



    Christophe



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