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Subject: Re: How does Franz Morsch feel about DF7?

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 13:48:11 10/08/02

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On October 08, 2002 at 12:30:19, Eran wrote:

>On October 08, 2002 at 12:27:12, Louis Fagliano wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 12:00:05, Eran wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>He must feel really bad and depressed, right?
>>>
>>>Eran
>>
>>Why?  I didn't expect computers to be better than a human world champion this
>>soon, but the point is that eventually they will.  (Perhaps by 2015?)  What
>>Franz Morsch and other programmers are gaining is valuable information of where
>>the weak points in their programs are.  Though it may take a while and require
>>more advances in hardware (faster processors and more memory) if, or perhaps
>>when, those advances come and coupled with some new algorythm that hasn't even
>>been thought of at this time computers will surpass the human world champion.
>>
>>What is happening here is that the way Kramnik beats Fritz will provide the
>>direction that programmers have to take to shore up the weaknesses in their
>>programs.  Without the results and games of this match, and the Kasparov-Deep
>>Junior 7 match, programmers wouldn't know exactly how the best human players can
>>exploit their programs.
>>
>>If human world champions realy want to stave off the day that computers will be
>>able to beat them in a match then they should refuse to play computers at all,
>>leaving programmers wondering where their programs are weak.  In this way
>>Kranmik and Kasparov in playing these matches at all are actually doing a
>>valuable service to aspiring programmers.
>
>Yeah, I agree with you. Programmers improve their programs by learning from
>mistakes.
>
>Eran


That's true, but it's not clear what to fix or how to fix it.

The weaknesses that Kramnik is exposing have been known for years and years.
It's a lot easier to describe the weakness than to know how to change the code
to "fix" it without making the program slower and weaker overall.



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