Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 15:34:34 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 18:31:47, Roy Eassa wrote: >On October 08, 2002 at 18:26:10, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On October 08, 2002 at 18:02:42, Roy Eassa wrote: >> >>>Many people posting on ICC said that they will now avoid buying Fritz because of >>>the results so far. I think that's wrong. Fritz is not the issue. Kramnik's >>>strength and understanding of how to play a computer (any computer) is the >>>issue. >>> >>>If you want to buy any chess program, Fritz is a good one (as are Tiger, >>>ChessMaster, Junior, Shredder, Hiarcs, Rebel, and others)! If instead you want >>>to "punish" something because the computer has fallen behind in this match, >>>don't take it all out on the program that happens to be involved -- others would >>>surely suffer similar results. >>> >>>Kramnik's winning technique thus far is not Fritz-unique, IMHO. >> >> >>Roy, I find such debates unworthy. It looks as if people tried to do some PR for >>certain companies. Looks very odd. We should debate about problems and topics, >>but to even start a debate about the question if FRITZ (!) now should be >>punished, I mean, isn't it a bit premature? >> >>Fritz with all the database features and the cbh - all that is state of the art >>of the amateur user. But those who want do experiments with progs, they could >>well be more satisfied with other progs. Why? Simply because Fritz looks more >>like a coach or training tool. You can out-calculate Fritz! Until now nobody >>tried to understand the computer stuff. Kramnik is the true professional and >>artist in the line of people like Eduard Nemeth! >> >>All the others from Gulko to Smirin they played normal chess or weak chess from >>the opening. Kramnik is the first who made up his mind and tried to figure out >>how he could exploit the naivety of Fritz. That doesn't mean that Fritz is now a >>bad tool for users. That would be nonsense. >> >>But we should make some reflections about the hype of the > 2700 Elo of such >>progs - after the SSDF testings... That is all bogus of course and all those >>who are experienced enough knew that and said it! See Bob Hyatt! See Rolf >>Tueschen! :) >> >> >>Rolf Tueschen > > >Once again, even though it may seem we disagree, we agree. I just mean that >Fritz (and ChessBase) should not be singled out. Fritz is not playing worse >than any other program would, IMHO. Kramnik is just that good. Sorry, but only if ChessBase would send me some lollipops, could I support their bogus PR! Duh! :) Rolf Tueschen
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