Author: Eran
Date: 16:54:54 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 18:12:50, Christophe Theron wrote: >On October 08, 2002 at 17:56:53, Mike S. wrote: > >>On October 08, 2002 at 16:09:30, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>That's obvious. >>>My congratualtions to ChessBase. They have done an excellent job for their baby, >>>and also an excellent job for computer chess in general. >>>This is not humour, I *really* mean it. >>>Life is not a zero-sum game. In real life, you can achieve a great victory even >>>if your opponent wins. >>>That's exactly what's happening here. Kramnik wins. Fritz wins. Computer chess >>>wins! >> >>I doubt it... most often, a loss simply is a loss. Did you mean the advertising >>effect? >> >>It fits here too, what I've just written above in >>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?257490 , that more important than >>the number of points will be IMO, if it can score at least one *win*. If *this* >>cannot be achieved, it would be a major setback for computerchess or even for >>A.I. - Because we know, in a wider public of non-insiders, everything is >>simplified down to a nearly idiotic level... and they will say, superiority of >>machines in chess was just an illusion etc. etc. (just like the sceptics always >>said before Deep Blue won). >> >>(I didn't realise before the match started, how risky it probably was to >>challenge Kramnik in that respect... also, being in the news worldwinde with >>draw-loss-loss-draw-loss etc. isn't the best advertisement neither. So ChessBase >>took a big risk in a commercial sense, too.) >> >>Regards, >>Mike Scheidl > > > > >You are starting to see the light, Mike! :) > >Q: what has been the worst thing that has ever happened to computer chess? > >A: the victory of Deep Blue over G. Kasparov in 1997. > > > > Christophe Deep Blue was frequently manipulated by programmers with the help of several grandmasters and chess opening books experts in another room during the DB vs Kasparov match. Do you remember it? Deep Blue could not do successfully alone. Eran
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