Author: Omid David
Date: 20:10:34 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 22:17:41, stuart taylor wrote:
>On October 08, 2002 at 19:12:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 17:37:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:48:39, Omid David wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:35:48, Ricardo R Santana wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It will be nice to see if Kasparov could socre as fine as Kramnik. It's seems
>>>>>Kramnik playing style is more than adequate to play against computers...but
>>>>>Kasparov risky style seems dangerous against a tactical mosnter...so, wee will
>>>>>see...
>>>>>
>>>>>Ricardo Sant Ana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kasparov will win, but won't score as good as Kramnik because:
>>>
>>>i think you are right, but...
>>>
>>>>1. Kasparov's style ("fire on board"!) isn't suitable for anti-computer match
>>>mainly for this reason.
>>>
>>>>2. Junior is much stronger than Fritz
>>>
>>>huh? that's just your gut feeling. where is the proof? not in the qualifier
>>>tournament for this match, and not in the SSDF list for sure.
>>>
>>
>>I think country of origin may preclude objectivity here. I think Junior 7 is
>>quite strong but Deep Fritz 7 is stronger by a good 30-50 Elo on similar
>>hardware.
>>
>I also live here, but if Junior is stronger, why is it much lower down in the
>ssdf list? You were not talking about Junior 8, as that hasn't played yet.
>S.Taylor
Q: How do you measure the strongest football (soccer) national team?
A: You have World Cup every 4 years.
Q: How do you measure the strongest chess program?
A: You have WCCC every year (actually until recently it was WMCCC every year,
and WCCC every third year). And Junior has won the last two world computer chess
championships.
Such tournaments are the only good gauge, since the programmers come with the
best they've got. Whilst in SSDF or other ratings, the public versions of the
programs are measured, which are on occasions considerably weaker that the best
one.
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