Author: martin fierz
Date: 21:20:47 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 23:10:34, Omid David wrote:
>On October 08, 2002 at 22:17:41, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 19:12:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2002 at 17:37:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:48:39, Omid David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:35:48, Ricardo R Santana wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It will be nice to see if Kasparov could socre as fine as Kramnik. It's seems
>>>>>>Kramnik playing style is more than adequate to play against computers...but
>>>>>>Kasparov risky style seems dangerous against a tactical mosnter...so, wee will
>>>>>>see...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ricardo Sant Ana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Kasparov will win, but won't score as good as Kramnik because:
>>>>
>>>>i think you are right, but...
>>>>
>>>>>1. Kasparov's style ("fire on board"!) isn't suitable for anti-computer match
>>>>mainly for this reason.
>>>>
>>>>>2. Junior is much stronger than Fritz
>>>>
>>>>huh? that's just your gut feeling. where is the proof? not in the qualifier
>>>>tournament for this match, and not in the SSDF list for sure.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think country of origin may preclude objectivity here. I think Junior 7 is
>>>quite strong but Deep Fritz 7 is stronger by a good 30-50 Elo on similar
>>>hardware.
>>>
>>I also live here, but if Junior is stronger, why is it much lower down in the
>>ssdf list? You were not talking about Junior 8, as that hasn't played yet.
>>S.Taylor
>
>Q: How do you measure the strongest football (soccer) national team?
>A: You have World Cup every 4 years.
>
>Q: How do you measure the strongest chess program?
>A: You have WCCC every year (actually until recently it was WMCCC every year,
>and WCCC every third year). And Junior has won the last two world computer chess
>championships.
>
>Such tournaments are the only good gauge, since the programmers come with the
>best they've got. Whilst in SSDF or other ratings, the public versions of the
>programs are measured, which are on occasions considerably weaker that the best
>one.
come on, this is just ridiculous. 9 rounds swiss is a bit better than lottery,
and that's about it.
and i couldn't care less about secret private versions (another conspiracy
theory! do i see a pattern in your posts? :-) ). i, like everybody else i guess
would like to know which is the best program i can buy for my PC.
aloha
martin
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