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Subject: Re: Importing The King in Chessmaster

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 01:22:36 10/09/02

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On October 08, 2002 at 19:29:14, John Merlino wrote:

>On October 08, 2002 at 18:54:17, Brian Thomas wrote:
>
>>>Why would you want to do this? Importing The King engine would be identical to
>>>playing against the Chessmaster personality (assuming you did not specify any
>>>specific personality settings), except you would have to deal with the OPK
>>>number.
>>>
>>>Pretty much pointless....
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>Yes, I realize it appears pointless, but 'on the side' I've been reading up on
>>using winboard engines, how different engines compare, etc.  Specifically I was
>>going to put Fritz against CM, and other engines.  But as a first step, I
>>thought I'd take the King and make it play itself.  The idea being that the
>>Import should be able to at least draw itself.  It seemed like a good starting
>>place, and would help me figure out what settings affect engine performance.
>>Obviously, I got something wrong off the start.
>>
>>If I didn't learn this, I'd make a mistake in say importing the King into Fritz
>>with a winboard Converter, and ultimately get incorrect results.
>>
>>Brian
>
>You can accomplish this simply by making new personalities based on the
>Chessmaster personality, and changing the settings that you are curious about.
>There is no need to import The King engine.
>
>But, expecting that the imported version "should be able to at least draw
>itself" is also rather strange. They would be the exact same engine (assuming
>the same personality settings) so the test has no meaning. If you pit any engine
>against itself, it is still somewhat possible to get a 7-3 or even an 8-2 score.
>You would have to play at least 100 games to test this theory, and you can just
>as easily do it by pitting Chessmaster against itself.
>
>jm

You can compare this better if you used exactly the same starting point
(Ofcourse when out of book.)
If engine1 then looses game number 1 with White the next game should be
The result should be the same so Engine number 2 looses game number 2 with White
though there might be exeption Chessmaster might have learned something
So if you would play 8 games the result should be about equal.
Marc



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