Author: Omid David
Date: 02:06:12 10/09/02
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On October 09, 2002 at 00:20:47, martin fierz wrote:
>On October 08, 2002 at 23:10:34, Omid David wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 22:17:41, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2002 at 19:12:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 17:37:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:48:39, Omid David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:35:48, Ricardo R Santana wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It will be nice to see if Kasparov could socre as fine as Kramnik. It's seems
>>>>>>>Kramnik playing style is more than adequate to play against computers...but
>>>>>>>Kasparov risky style seems dangerous against a tactical mosnter...so, wee will
>>>>>>>see...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ricardo Sant Ana
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kasparov will win, but won't score as good as Kramnik because:
>>>>>
>>>>>i think you are right, but...
>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Kasparov's style ("fire on board"!) isn't suitable for anti-computer match
>>>>>mainly for this reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>>2. Junior is much stronger than Fritz
>>>>>
>>>>>huh? that's just your gut feeling. where is the proof? not in the qualifier
>>>>>tournament for this match, and not in the SSDF list for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think country of origin may preclude objectivity here. I think Junior 7 is
>>>>quite strong but Deep Fritz 7 is stronger by a good 30-50 Elo on similar
>>>>hardware.
>>>>
>>>I also live here, but if Junior is stronger, why is it much lower down in the
>>>ssdf list? You were not talking about Junior 8, as that hasn't played yet.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>Q: How do you measure the strongest football (soccer) national team?
>>A: You have World Cup every 4 years.
>>
>>Q: How do you measure the strongest chess program?
>>A: You have WCCC every year (actually until recently it was WMCCC every year,
>>and WCCC every third year). And Junior has won the last two world computer chess
>>championships.
>>
>>Such tournaments are the only good gauge, since the programmers come with the
>>best they've got. Whilst in SSDF or other ratings, the public versions of the
>>programs are measured, which are on occasions considerably weaker that the best
>>one.
>
>come on, this is just ridiculous. 9 rounds swiss is a bit better than lottery,
>and that's about it.
>and i couldn't care less about secret private versions (another conspiracy
>theory! do i see a pattern in your posts? :-) ).
>i, like everybody else i guess
>would like to know which is the best program i can buy for my PC.
>
>aloha
> martin
Not every top program available "for your PC" at the moment. Just a few example
of private programs: DIEP, Brutus, Ferret, ...
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