Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 06:59:28 10/09/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 19:54:54, Eran wrote:
>On October 08, 2002 at 18:12:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 17:56:53, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:09:30, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's obvious.
>>>>My congratualtions to ChessBase. They have done an excellent job for their baby,
>>>>and also an excellent job for computer chess in general.
>>>>This is not humour, I *really* mean it.
>>>>Life is not a zero-sum game. In real life, you can achieve a great victory even
>>>>if your opponent wins.
>>>>That's exactly what's happening here. Kramnik wins. Fritz wins. Computer chess
>>>>wins!
>>>
>>>I doubt it... most often, a loss simply is a loss. Did you mean the advertising
>>>effect?
>>>
>>>It fits here too, what I've just written above in
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?257490 , that more important than
>>>the number of points will be IMO, if it can score at least one *win*. If *this*
>>>cannot be achieved, it would be a major setback for computerchess or even for
>>>A.I. - Because we know, in a wider public of non-insiders, everything is
>>>simplified down to a nearly idiotic level... and they will say, superiority of
>>>machines in chess was just an illusion etc. etc. (just like the sceptics always
>>>said before Deep Blue won).
>>>
>>>(I didn't realise before the match started, how risky it probably was to
>>>challenge Kramnik in that respect... also, being in the news worldwinde with
>>>draw-loss-loss-draw-loss etc. isn't the best advertisement neither. So ChessBase
>>>took a big risk in a commercial sense, too.)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mike Scheidl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>You are starting to see the light, Mike! :)
>>
>>Q: what has been the worst thing that has ever happened to computer chess?
>>
>>A: the victory of Deep Blue over G. Kasparov in 1997.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>Deep Blue was frequently manipulated by programmers with the help of several
>grandmasters and chess opening books experts in another room during the DB vs
>Kasparov match. Do you remember it? Deep Blue could not do successfully alone.
>
>Eran
Please spare us your stupid conspiration theories.
Christophe
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