Author: stuart taylor
Date: 10:04:59 10/09/02
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On October 09, 2002 at 05:06:12, Omid David wrote:
>On October 09, 2002 at 00:20:47, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2002 at 23:10:34, Omid David wrote:
>>
>>>On October 08, 2002 at 22:17:41, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 19:12:22, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 17:37:26, martin fierz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:48:39, Omid David wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 08, 2002 at 16:35:48, Ricardo R Santana wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It will be nice to see if Kasparov could socre as fine as Kramnik. It's seems
>>>>>>>>Kramnik playing style is more than adequate to play against computers...but
>>>>>>>>Kasparov risky style seems dangerous against a tactical mosnter...so, wee will
>>>>>>>>see...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ricardo Sant Ana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kasparov will win, but won't score as good as Kramnik because:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i think you are right, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Kasparov's style ("fire on board"!) isn't suitable for anti-computer match
>>>>>>mainly for this reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. Junior is much stronger than Fritz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>huh? that's just your gut feeling. where is the proof? not in the qualifier
>>>>>>tournament for this match, and not in the SSDF list for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I think country of origin may preclude objectivity here. I think Junior 7 is
>>>>>quite strong but Deep Fritz 7 is stronger by a good 30-50 Elo on similar
>>>>>hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>I also live here, but if Junior is stronger, why is it much lower down in the
>>>>ssdf list? You were not talking about Junior 8, as that hasn't played yet.
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>Q: How do you measure the strongest football (soccer) national team?
>>>A: You have World Cup every 4 years.
>>>
>>>Q: How do you measure the strongest chess program?
>>>A: You have WCCC every year (actually until recently it was WMCCC every year,
>>>and WCCC every third year). And Junior has won the last two world computer chess
>>>championships.
>>>
>>>Such tournaments are the only good gauge, since the programmers come with the
>>>best they've got. Whilst in SSDF or other ratings, the public versions of the
>>>programs are measured, which are on occasions considerably weaker that the best
>>>one.
>>
>>come on, this is just ridiculous. 9 rounds swiss is a bit better than lottery,
>>and that's about it.
>>and i couldn't care less about secret private versions (another conspiracy
>>theory! do i see a pattern in your posts? :-) ).
>>i, like everybody else i guess
>>would like to know which is the best program i can buy for my PC.
>>
>>aloha
>> martin
>
>Not every top program available "for your PC" at the moment. Just a few example
>of private programs: DIEP, Brutus, Ferret, ...
So, for crying out loud! can someone please just sell me something stronger than
all comercials? I'm offering $300. (not much, if it's a secret, but you can take
whatever precautions you wish.
e-mail me at alant@netvision.net.il
S.Taylor
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