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Subject: Re: Victory for Computer Chess (!) = Waterloo

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 18:35:21 10/09/02

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On October 08, 2002 at 13:33:33, Omid David wrote:

>On October 08, 2002 at 13:23:11, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>.
>>
>>year by year computerchess makes steps backwards instead of progress.
>>the programs do not learn to plan.
>>
>>they search deep, make NPS like hell, use mega hardware,
>>and do not play better chess, only faster.
>>
>
>The better the hardware is, the more glad I'll be to see that program losing.
>
>[D] 8/4k3/8/p1p1p1p1/P1P1P1P1/8/2B1K3/8 w - - 0 1
>
>If a human can't see the draw here, he is an idiot. If a program can't see the
>draw here, it's no less idiot (at least not an "intelligent agent", but a "dumb
>agent"). And that's the case with all programs at this stage. So we -- the
>computer chess community -- have still a long way to go, to reach our goal of
>proving that computers can play better than humans.
>
>
>
>>quantity IS NOT quality.
>>
>>and bean counting is no way out of low quality.

As soon as computers can search 100 plies in a few seconds, in very simple
positions, they will see this is a draw in a few seconds too.
One day, plies might catch up with knowledge. But that would probably take
longer than all this competition (of computers and chess programming) will be
going on for. Or not?
S.Taylor



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