Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:04:02 10/11/02
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On October 11, 2002 at 12:36:19, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On October 11, 2002 at 09:05:31, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>It's no different than human world champion contenders analysing with the aid of >>their human or computer helpers to adjust play between games in a match. >> >>Program tweaking during a match does not make the program stronger, it just >>adjusts it's play to the particular opponent, JUST LIKE HUMANS DO. >> >>I think your argument is not logical. >> > >You think? Let's see. > >HUMAN PLAYER: Known for years, then decades, playing style and strong and weak >points well known, impossible to play like someone else, opening choice in a >certain realm, surprises possible, but then with pro and con aspects (perhaps >more aspects) > >MACHINE PLAYER: always new versions, theoretically with always new style, so >that no tendence could be seen and exploited, that would be no problem IF it was >for more than 5 or 8 games only, the general limiation by the overall depth can >be exploited, but only after some training, the same for the huge opening books >for an absolutely new player, so without training and allowance to tweak and >twist the complete personality, always with the same high-class GM books, that >is nonsense in the end to play little show matches with only few games > >And you want to insinuate that humans play on that same base their chess? You >bet! > >Rolf Tueschen You are falling into a deep abyss now. Because you want to make humans and computers "equivalent" and that is simply impossible, particularly when we know so little about the "human chess player and how he does what he does." Much of the "fairness" has to come by analogy, because the two players (man and machine) have so very little in common. In fact, all they do have in common is the ability to move chess pieces around on a board according to proscribed rules... Arguing about opening books, endgame tables, adjustments during the game, are all things that simply have no common ground in the two players...
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