Author: Mark Young
Date: 17:30:35 09/01/98
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On September 01, 1998 at 17:09:51, Torstein Hall wrote: >On September 01, 1998 at 14:35:24, Mark Young wrote: > ><BIG SNIP> > >>I agree we need more data, but because of this crafty bug and how much it did >>differ in performance against humans and computers has to raise a few alarm >>bells in our faith of computer Vs computer testing. Who is to say that there >>could not be a program that could perform wonders playing humans, but could not >>win a game against computers, without having a bug. The Crafty results makes >>computer Vs computer testing very suspect in my eyes. If the goal of chess >>programming is still to beat top human players. > >If you keep improving against other computers you are still improving and >perhaps you can reach the goal ( to beat top humans ) in the end. Even if you >did not go the shortest route! > I do not know. Thats why I am asking the question to much smarter people then I. I need more insight and data to make a better judgement. But some of the results that have came up make me wonder and need to be explained better. If computer Vs computer results are not trust worthy in repects to computer Vs human results. Then what good is it in the long run to improve new programs to play better against older programs. If the goal is to improve the program overall. To me at least, since I do play the programs and most people who bye them do also. What good is it for program X to crush all other computers if it play the same or worse when playing humans. I love computer Vs computer chess, but the goal should be to beat humans not other computer programs. And if computer Vs computer testing can give such bad data in respects to a human rating then this I would think is the wrong track to take. Even if it does get the computer programs to play better against humans some where down the road. >Torstein
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