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Subject: Re: null-move vs non-null-move

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:15:28 10/11/02

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On October 11, 2002 at 04:43:55, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On October 10, 2002 at 14:29:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>First, you are comparing apples and oranges.  It is _impossible_ to do a
>>full-width
>>12 ply search in 3 minutes, for typical positions, using only a PIII/850.  My
>>tests with
>>Crafty was producing 9-10 ply searches at best for 2 minutes a move.  Fritz does
>>some
>>forward pruning _besides_ null-move, which makes the comparison with and without
>>not so meaningful.
>
>So would you say your test are specifically related to null-move? Or were they
>meant to test forward pruning vs. no forward pruning in general?
>
>Russell


I was just trying to answer the question:

"what is the Elo improvement for a program that uses null-move over a program
that does
not, everything else being _identical_??"

The last time I had tried this I got numbers between 50 and 100.  Seems to still
be the case,
if we are talking about longer games (not blitz).



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