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Subject: Re: null-move vs non-null-move

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 10:39:29 10/11/02

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On October 11, 2002 at 13:15:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>I was just trying to answer the question:
>
>"what is the Elo improvement for a program that uses null-move over a program
>that does
>not, everything else being _identical_??"
>
>The last time I had tried this I got numbers between 50 and 100.  Seems to still
>be the case,
>if we are talking about longer games (not blitz).

So what about a program like Junior that doesn't use null-move? If you added
null-move to Junior, you might see zero improvement, or null-move might actually
get in the way of other techniques. Obviously the improvement is either very
small or there is none, or else I imagine it would be a part of Junior. So are
we talking about...

1. Programs that use null-move forward pruning and no other form of forward
pruning.

vs.

2. The same program will null-move turned off.

?

Russell



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