Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:48:54 10/11/02
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On October 09, 2002 at 19:34:00, martin fierz wrote: >On October 09, 2002 at 18:46:21, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 09, 2002 at 17:48:43, Jason Jarrells wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> After what I have seen, I have NO doubt in my mind what so ever, that DEEP >>>BLUE is superior to Deep Fritz. I am so tired of people saying that Fritz is >>>superior to Deep Blue... That is total BS.. What do they base it one? I mean >>>do they compare Hardware? LOL.. Deep Blue looked at 200,000,000 moves a >>>second. Fritz sees 3,000,000 a second. Deep Blue gives Kasparov all he can >>>handle and them some. It WINS!!! Deep Fritz on the other hand is getting >>>OWNED!! TOTALLY ABUSED!! Kramnik isn't that much better then Kasparov. Some >>>people say that Kasparov just can't play against computers. I don't buy that. >>>We will se in a couple months. IF he abuses Deep Junior as Kramnik is to Fritz, >>>then will that answer the questions about the strength of Deep Blue? That will >>>be the strongest in my mind untill something can win over the best GM's. Or >>>untill they put Deep Fritz on Deep Blue's hardware. Then and ONLY then will >>>Fritz be stronger then Deep Blue. >> >>There is going to be no proof so why do you insist to discuss it. >> >>You cannot compare kasparov of 1997 with kasparov of today and there is no way >>to do a match between them. >> >>You cannot compare the matches when kasparov trained against Junior(inspite of >>the fact that he could not train against the version that he is going to play) >>and kasparov could not train even against Deep blueI before the match against >>deep blue II. >> >>I guess that kasparov is going to beat Deep Junior 4-2 but it is not going to >>prove nothing. >> >>The reason that people believe that Deep blue is weaker is that they found no >>impressing move in the moves of deep blue against kasparov(there is no >>impressive moves that top programs need hours to find). > >i don't really want to discuss DB-DF, because we will never know. but your >argument doesnt seem valid to me. you don't need lots of !! moves to play great >chess. what you really need is very few ? / ?? moves. and DF seems to have >played more ? moves in the first 3 games than DB did in the entire match with >kasparov... > >aloha > martin I do not think that you are right here. I do not think that Fritz played a lot of ? moves but one ? is enough to lose the game. We also cannot compare the matches because the conditions are different and I expect a program to play more ? when the opponent is prepared. Uri
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