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Subject: Re: Anti-human programs as completely separate entities

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 14:37:37 10/11/02

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On October 11, 2002 at 16:47:42, martin fierz wrote:

>On October 11, 2002 at 16:30:33, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>On October 11, 2002 at 16:15:21, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>That is exactly what is missing in those games just seen in the match
>>>Kramnik-DF... "the chess beauty" !
>>
>>Game #2 was a fantastic game in my opinion. You seem to apply that "chess
>>beauty" is equal to incredible queen sacs and whatnot.
>>
>>Sargon
>
>i have often noticed that what people find beautiful in chess depends on their
>understanding of chess. to somebody who plays no chess at all, nothing is
>beautiful. to weak players, a queen sac forcing a mate in 2 is beautiful. to
>average players, a classic like Bxh7+ Kxh7 Qh5+ Kg8 Ng5 and mate in all forms is
>beautiful. for strong players, there is no beauty there - it's just routine.
>i have noticed that the stronger i got at chess, the more i could appreciate
>other forms of chess beauty. most of the 1600 hacks who post here can't enjoy
>those DF-kramnik games as much as i do. hmm, instead of complaining they should
>work on their chess :-)
>
>there's a nice anecdote on this thing: kasparov was once on german TV and they
>asked him about such a Bxh7 position - i'm not sure if he could see the board or
>not, i think not. it was a forced mate in 8. they wanted to show the viewers who
>knew nothing about chess that kasparov would see a mate in 8 in a split second,
>blindfolded. but he didnt! he was confused, and didnt give the solution in a
>second like anticipated. what happened? he thought: it was an obvious mate in 8
>- how could they ask him to solve something as trivial as that? so he just
>refused to answer IIRC. 99 of 100 chess players would be glad to find a
>beautiful combination, but kasparov was insulted by it :-)
>
>aloha
>  martin

LOL! But point well taken!

Actually I hadn't heard of the mate in 8 but did read a report months back that
was similar, in a pawn ending.


http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/puzz9-1a.htm


http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/puzz9-1b.htm


Terry



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